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How about both. Programmers for really stupid shit like this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12756006 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12756006 And

by X86BSD 10y ago

How about both. Programmers for really stupid shit like this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12756006 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12756006 And managers for... well to this day I have found absolutely ZERO use for management.