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I want to donate using Paypal not a credit card. Is there a way to do it?

schoen 10y ago
Save the source of https://web.archive.org/web/20160506180535/https://letsencrypt.org/donate/ https://web.archive.org/web/20160506180535/https://letsencry... Edit it and remove the /web/20160506180535/ and /web/20160506180535im_/ from the PayPal form at the bottom. Open it and click the PayPal donate button. (I would just paste the HTML code in this post, but I suspect giving people a PayPal hosted_button_id in an editable HN post would feel kind of sketchy, as opposed to getting it from the Internet Archive.) I'll also ask to have the PayPal button put back somewhere during the crowdfunding campaign, which would be a lot easier.
jaas 10y ago
We just added the PayPal button back to our site, it's near the bottom of each page now.
- StavrosK 10y ago
  Any way you'd add Bitcoin support? It's the second most convenient thing (after PayPal, but I hate PayPal).
  - geomark 10y ago
    I would also donate bitcoin. Not with PayPal because like thousands of other people who have been robbed by PayPal I won't use them again.
driverdan 10y ago
Why would you want to use Paypal? It's a terrible service.
- joepie91_ 10y ago
  Because creditcards are not in wide use everywhere? There's more to the world than just the United States.
- seeekr 10y ago
  Why is Paypal terrible? (Honest question, I find it to be a great service. Am not US-based, if that matters.)
  - tf2manu994 10y ago
    Fees, and its not that great for the recipient. Better for those sending. Being a bit hypocritical though, I use it myself.
  - StavrosK 10y ago
    Its fees are just sheer theft. I just used it for collecting money from friends for a small paintball event I want to organize, and it kept 10%! Seriously, people sent 5 euros, and I got 4.48, for no reason I can see. Not to mention that currency conversion is a complete ripoff. I avoid PayPal like the plague.
    - eropple 10y ago
      Paypal's fees are 2.9% + $0.30 USD, which is pretty standard among commercial-level (and you were using it commercially, otherwise they'd have sent it as a gift) processors that don't require a merchant account. Braintree is 2.9% + $0.30 USD; Stripe is also 2.9% + $0.30 USD if you're under $1m/year.
      - StavrosK 10y ago
        I don't know anything about commercial stuff. All I know was that I wanted my friends to send me $5 so I could pay the paintball guy, and PayPal kept 10% of that.
  - driverdan 10y ago
    They are very anti-seller. They lock accounts on a whim and require extensive, unnecessary documentation to get your own money back. They recently settled a class-action suit because of this: https://www.accountholdsettlement.com/ https://www.accountholdsettlement.com/ They nearly always side with purchasers and reverse charges despite ample evidence supporting the seller.

Save the source of https://web.archive.org/web/20160506180535/https://letsencrypt.org/donate/ https://web.archive.org/web/20160506180535/https://letsencry... Edit it and remove the /web/20160506180535/ and /web/20160506180535im_/ from the PayPal form at the bottom. Open it and click the PayPal donate button. (I would just paste the HTML code in this post, but I suspect giving people a PayPal hosted_button_id in an editable HN post would feel kind of sketchy, as opposed to getting it from the Internet Archive.) I'll also ask to have the PayPal button put back somewhere during the crowdfunding campaign, which would be a lot easier.

jaas 10y ago

We just added the PayPal button back to our site, it's near the bottom of each page now.

StavrosK 10y ago
Any way you'd add Bitcoin support? It's the second most convenient thing (after PayPal, but I hate PayPal).
- geomark 10y ago
  I would also donate bitcoin. Not with PayPal because like thousands of other people who have been robbed by PayPal I won't use them again.

driverdan 10y ago

Why would you want to use Paypal? It's a terrible service.

joepie91_ 10y ago
Because creditcards are not in wide use everywhere? There's more to the world than just the United States.
seeekr 10y ago
Why is Paypal terrible? (Honest question, I find it to be a great service. Am not US-based, if that matters.)
- tf2manu994 10y ago
  Fees, and its not that great for the recipient. Better for those sending. Being a bit hypocritical though, I use it myself.
- StavrosK 10y ago
  Its fees are just sheer theft. I just used it for collecting money from friends for a small paintball event I want to organize, and it kept 10%! Seriously, people sent 5 euros, and I got 4.48, for no reason I can see. Not to mention that currency conversion is a complete ripoff. I avoid PayPal like the plague.
  - eropple 10y ago
    Paypal's fees are 2.9% + $0.30 USD, which is pretty standard among commercial-level (and you were using it commercially, otherwise they'd have sent it as a gift) processors that don't require a merchant account. Braintree is 2.9% + $0.30 USD; Stripe is also 2.9% + $0.30 USD if you're under $1m/year.
    - StavrosK 10y ago
      I don't know anything about commercial stuff. All I know was that I wanted my friends to send me $5 so I could pay the paintball guy, and PayPal kept 10% of that.
- driverdan 10y ago
  They are very anti-seller. They lock accounts on a whim and require extensive, unnecessary documentation to get your own money back. They recently settled a class-action suit because of this: https://www.accountholdsettlement.com/ https://www.accountholdsettlement.com/ They nearly always side with purchasers and reverse charges despite ample evidence supporting the seller.