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Great, so what do I run MacOS Server on? A laptop? with 16 gigs of ram? Great, what about redundant power supplies? dual network? nope thought not. Let me g
by KaiserPro 10y ago
Great, so what do I run MacOS Server on?
A laptop? with 16 gigs of ram?
Great, what about redundant power supplies? dual network?
nope thought not.
Let me guess? still can't [legally] virtualize it on non apple hardware right?
- jason_slack 10y agoWhat about a Mac Mini? It doesn't address all of your concerns but could be a useful solution. A Mac Pro addresses your concerns a bit better but there is a larger price tag. I have used Mini's for servers for years and they hold up pretty well.
- plorg 10y agoI don't think OP is saying there is literally no hardware on which to run the OS, just that by restricting it to Apple products and then not producing any actual server-grade hardware, the offering seems pretty pointless.
- jason_slack 10y agoI guess my sarcasm radar didn't go off...
- KaiserPro 10y agoSadly the mac mini is single PSU and single 1 gig nic. (putting aside under powered/poor storage)
- lloeki 10y agoMac Minis are underpowered dual-core, I wish they kept the quad core options around. And the Mac Pro is so outdated for the price tag it's not even funny (although I could consider one if the price were slashed by a half or more).
- jason_slack 10y agoThey are not powerhouse machines that is for sure. For small stuff they work great. I don't think I would ever deploy one for anything mission critical/large volume of users. My Mac Pro still feels very useful to me. I use it daily as my main machine. I may consider upgrading the SSD to a TB when the prices come down.
- Lio 10y agoI'm not at all serious about this but ...the new MacBook Pro has those 4 USB-C ports, any of which can be used to charge it. So in theory you could add redundant power supplies and dual wired network connections and it has a built in UPS in case of power outage, maybe. Maybe not, 'tis a silly idea. Maybe it's a sign that Apple are considering releasing server grade hardware again in the future ...but probably not that either.
- KaiserPro 10y agoI suppose it has inbuilt battery and can handle DC to rack power, does it make it OCP compliant? (In a previous life, I have cut the handles off a mac pro to make it fit in a normal rack....)
- caleblloyd 10y agoThey'd rack mount really great also. Just stack them on top of each other. At 18mm thin you'd be able to go 152 high in a 9ft rack! Good luck hitting numbers like those with a blade loaded with Xeons. Each one comes with a built-in KVM console, and boy does it look good! Finally, no more pushing that cart with a 17" CRT around the data center so you can use vi in a 40x80 console. These laptop servers have retina screens, baby. Only one question should stand between you and outfitting your data center with MBPs: Space Gray or Silver?
- toomanybeersies 10y agoI'm now imagining the sheer amount of heat that a rack of 152 MBPs would produce. Something around 10 kW I reckon. Enough to heat a house.
- jason_slack 10y agoSince you are talking about racking, I couldn't resist showing how Imgix racks Mac Pro's http://photos.imgix.com/racking-mac-pros http://photos.imgix.com/racking-mac-pros
- burke 10y ago
- k_bx 10y agoWhy do you need redundant power supplies while you have a battery already?
- KaiserPro 10y agoSo when maintenance happens, or a power feed goes down we don't have to go round swapping cables like madmen.
- Aaargh20318 10y agoHow about a Mac Pro ? Up to 12 cores, 64-gigs of ECC RAM, dual ethernet
- KaiserPro 10y agoSingle PSU, can't rack mount, limited storage. Which means I can't shove it in the server room, monitor it, use UPS properly, and its all limited to 1 gig ethernet.
- adamlett 10y agoIf you want to rack mount, or if you have a sysadmin on staff, it is not for you. Think small office server somewhere with no IT department.
- KaiserPro 10y agowell yes, but what about if I want to scale that office?
- adamlett 10y agoIf you are the kind of person who uses the word scale when they really mean grow, then macOS Server is not for you. Most small businesses never have to worry about the problems that come from outgrowing their IT infrastructure.
- jsz0 10y ago> its all limited to 1 gig ethernet. 10GE ThunderBolt NICs are a thing. Alternatively you could use a ThunderBolt PCI-E enclosure.
- OverThere 10y agoLol exactly. Wouldn't be an issue if apple would update their Mac Minis...
- nsxwolf 10y agoWell you could run it on a Mac Pro. No redundant power supply but 128GB of RAM and dual network.
- jason_slack 10y ago128gb of very slow RAM. Last time I checked it was only 800mhz instead of 1600.
- DrJokepu 10y agoEver since the Xserve line was discontinued OS X Server (now called MacOS Server) was typically hosted on Mac Minis.
- therockhead 10y agoI know its been a while since it got an update but my MacPro has 32G of RAM and can go a lot higher.
- radiorental 10y agopreviously on Hackernews 96 Macbooks in a rack... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9967357 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9967357
- robotresearcher 10y agoYou may not be the market for this $20 small-workgroup server product.