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I couldn't agree more. Especially this part really makes me smash my head against the wall: "Instead of 16GB of RAM as found on the Apple, I configured with 32

by ufukbay 10y ago

I couldn't agree more. Especially this part really makes me smash my head against the wall: "Instead of 16GB of RAM as found on the Apple, I configured with 32GB (you can go up to 64GB if needed). By default, it comes with a 6GB Nvidia GTX 1060. The price? Less than $2,000! In other words, the System76 machine with much better specs is less expensive than Apple's." I'm not an Apple fanboy but since the company I work for provides us with any hardware we want, most of us use Macbook Pros. The thing is, sure, it might have 16GB more RAM but it looks like a huge black brick. I'm not even going to start talking more about design but how can you even compare 2.49kg weight to 1.83kg of the Macbook Pro?

kagamine 10y ago
My ZBook is over 5kg, my car doesn't seem to mind. My point, weight unknown, is that Apple are so focussed on thinness they have forgotten that I have "legacy" hardware lying around, still in use. I refuse to spend $ on replacing working external drives, usb sticks and more (home studio sound card for example) simply because some company has decided I need "to get with the times". Apple want a consumer market in which users consume, consume, consume like tech is a loaf of bread. I'm not buying into that.
- ufukbay 10y ago
  I understand your point of view but I think it depends highly on your individual use case. I also drive to work by car but I carry around my MBP a lot at work. We have lots of workshops, hackathons or code reviews where it makes a huge difference that you don't have to carry around much.
  - kagamine 10y ago
    I realize that thin is good for some, but not all and Apple are only focusing on that one thing, at the expense of everything, and everyone, else. But I would also question whether you really need to shave off another 3 grams of weight, which it looks like you'll be adding back in cables so you can use those non-USB-C peripherals.
- esistgut 10y ago
  > Apple want a consumer market in which users consume, consume, consume like tech is a loaf of bread. I'm not buying into that. On a side note: soon the second hand market will be flooded with perfectly working and underpriced "legacy" hardware.

by ufukbay 10y ago

kagamine 10y ago

My ZBook is over 5kg, my car doesn't seem to mind. My point, weight unknown, is that Apple are so focussed on thinness they have forgotten that I have "legacy" hardware lying around, still in use. I refuse to spend $ on replacing working external drives, usb sticks and more (home studio sound card for example) simply because some company has decided I need "to get with the times". Apple want a consumer market in which users consume, consume, consume like tech is a loaf of bread. I'm not buying into that.

ufukbay 10y ago
I understand your point of view but I think it depends highly on your individual use case. I also drive to work by car but I carry around my MBP a lot at work. We have lots of workshops, hackathons or code reviews where it makes a huge difference that you don't have to carry around much.
- kagamine 10y ago
  I realize that thin is good for some, but not all and Apple are only focusing on that one thing, at the expense of everything, and everyone, else. But I would also question whether you really need to shave off another 3 grams of weight, which it looks like you'll be adding back in cables so you can use those non-USB-C peripherals.
esistgut 10y ago
> Apple want a consumer market in which users consume, consume, consume like tech is a loaf of bread. I'm not buying into that. On a side note: soon the second hand market will be flooded with perfectly working and underpriced "legacy" hardware.