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This "article" cites no data and is basically just an ad for System76.com.

ju-st 10y ago
The article's title alone is already a prime example of a very well crafted clickbait for the HN crowd.
ufukbay 10y ago
I couldn't agree more. Especially this part really makes me smash my head against the wall: "Instead of 16GB of RAM as found on the Apple, I configured with 32GB (you can go up to 64GB if needed). By default, it comes with a 6GB Nvidia GTX 1060. The price? Less than $2,000! In other words, the System76 machine with much better specs is less expensive than Apple's." I'm not an Apple fanboy but since the company I work for provides us with any hardware we want, most of us use Macbook Pros. The thing is, sure, it might have 16GB more RAM but it looks like a huge black brick. I'm not even going to start talking more about design but how can you even compare 2.49kg weight to 1.83kg of the Macbook Pro?
- kagamine 10y ago
  My ZBook is over 5kg, my car doesn't seem to mind. My point, weight unknown, is that Apple are so focussed on thinness they have forgotten that I have "legacy" hardware lying around, still in use. I refuse to spend $ on replacing working external drives, usb sticks and more (home studio sound card for example) simply because some company has decided I need "to get with the times". Apple want a consumer market in which users consume, consume, consume like tech is a loaf of bread. I'm not buying into that.
  - ufukbay 10y ago
    I understand your point of view but I think it depends highly on your individual use case. I also drive to work by car but I carry around my MBP a lot at work. We have lots of workshops, hackathons or code reviews where it makes a huge difference that you don't have to carry around much.
    - kagamine 10y ago
      I realize that thin is good for some, but not all and Apple are only focusing on that one thing, at the expense of everything, and everyone, else. But I would also question whether you really need to shave off another 3 grams of weight, which it looks like you'll be adding back in cables so you can use those non-USB-C peripherals.
  - esistgut 10y ago
    > Apple want a consumer market in which users consume, consume, consume like tech is a loaf of bread. I'm not buying into that. On a side note: soon the second hand market will be flooded with perfectly working and underpriced "legacy" hardware.
dewiz 10y ago
Upvoted. I read the news expecting something new, but I'm left with a question: is it me or these laptops look awful compared to a mac? OK all the nice specs but I still need a portable computer. If I was open to buy something so bulky I would probably be looking into desktop PCs...
- mSparks 10y ago
  i read the article and came away with. dell 2016 xps13 still the best laptop in the world. some builder called system76 thinks their blocky box can compete with it or the macbook pro. probably not.
soneil 10y ago
I'd be really curious if they'd cite sales numbers. So far they're just getting excited about a spike in traffic. Which doesn't surprise me thanks to all these baity articles, comparing the MBP to various alternatives. So there's the question. Is this just a side-effect of all the ranty articles, or are people actually 'switching'.
- elsen 10y ago
  I can't speak for the others, but I did install Ubuntu on my 2014 MBP, to ease the transition to a future non-Apple machine.
moduspwnens14 10y ago
It's OK, though. At least we finally have a place to discuss the new MacBook Pro.

ju-st 10y ago

The article's title alone is already a prime example of a very well crafted clickbait for the HN crowd.

I couldn't agree more. Especially this part really makes me smash my head against the wall: "Instead of 16GB of RAM as found on the Apple, I configured with 32GB (you can go up to 64GB if needed). By default, it comes with a 6GB Nvidia GTX 1060. The price? Less than $2,000! In other words, the System76 machine with much better specs is less expensive than Apple's." I'm not an Apple fanboy but since the company I work for provides us with any hardware we want, most of us use Macbook Pros. The thing is, sure, it might have 16GB more RAM but it looks like a huge black brick. I'm not even going to start talking more about design but how can you even compare 2.49kg weight to 1.83kg of the Macbook Pro?

kagamine 10y ago
My ZBook is over 5kg, my car doesn't seem to mind. My point, weight unknown, is that Apple are so focussed on thinness they have forgotten that I have "legacy" hardware lying around, still in use. I refuse to spend $ on replacing working external drives, usb sticks and more (home studio sound card for example) simply because some company has decided I need "to get with the times". Apple want a consumer market in which users consume, consume, consume like tech is a loaf of bread. I'm not buying into that.
- ufukbay 10y ago
  I understand your point of view but I think it depends highly on your individual use case. I also drive to work by car but I carry around my MBP a lot at work. We have lots of workshops, hackathons or code reviews where it makes a huge difference that you don't have to carry around much.
  - kagamine 10y ago
    I realize that thin is good for some, but not all and Apple are only focusing on that one thing, at the expense of everything, and everyone, else. But I would also question whether you really need to shave off another 3 grams of weight, which it looks like you'll be adding back in cables so you can use those non-USB-C peripherals.
- esistgut 10y ago
  > Apple want a consumer market in which users consume, consume, consume like tech is a loaf of bread. I'm not buying into that. On a side note: soon the second hand market will be flooded with perfectly working and underpriced "legacy" hardware.

dewiz 10y ago

Upvoted. I read the news expecting something new, but I'm left with a question: is it me or these laptops look awful compared to a mac? OK all the nice specs but I still need a portable computer. If I was open to buy something so bulky I would probably be looking into desktop PCs...

mSparks 10y ago
i read the article and came away with. dell 2016 xps13 still the best laptop in the world. some builder called system76 thinks their blocky box can compete with it or the macbook pro. probably not.

soneil 10y ago

I'd be really curious if they'd cite sales numbers. So far they're just getting excited about a spike in traffic. Which doesn't surprise me thanks to all these baity articles, comparing the MBP to various alternatives. So there's the question. Is this just a side-effect of all the ranty articles, or are people actually 'switching'.

elsen 10y ago
I can't speak for the others, but I did install Ubuntu on my 2014 MBP, to ease the transition to a future non-Apple machine.

moduspwnens14 10y ago

It's OK, though. At least we finally have a place to discuss the new MacBook Pro.