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How would they go about accessing it? Presumably people can protect information they deem private. Like their social security number for instance.

grzm 10y ago
Threats of physical violence? Bribes? There are ways to design the system that guarantee that the voter can verify they voted but can't prove who they voted for. No need to keep the UUID secret. It's very desirable to have a system that we can trust even if conditions aren't necessarily antagonistic. BTW, thanks for engaging in this discussion. It's important and it's helping me rethink through all of this.
- benchaney 10y ago
  Those are problems with all voting systems. In the current system someone could Threaten/Bribe you to take a selfie with your ballet after it has been filled out.
  - grzm 10y ago
    Okay. I'll grant that there are likely ways to potentially coerce or sell votes in any system. If there are straightforward, inexpensive ways to make it more difficult to do so, we should.
    - natch 10y ago
      The private, non-electronic ballot box makes it pretty hard. That's one of the main beauties of the system.
  - aninhumer 10y ago
    Which is exactly why that should be banned as well.
  - w00kie 10y ago
    You could take the selfie, throw away the ballot and make a new one.
    - VLM 10y ago
      The poll workers can and will force you to do that. They take great pride every election in telling the local TV news types doing human interest stories that taking pictures of ballots accomplishes little other than pissing off the 80 year old poll workers who now have to work even harder. Some probably do successfully slip thru the system. Another option is making a fake ballot. The local newspaper used to helpfully publish their suggestion of how a devout left wing progressive would fill out their ballot. They're currently the establishment, so they're likely to be the largest problem, and its solved right there.
  - natch 10y ago
    That would be noticed by poll workers. No curtains anymore.

grzm 10y ago

Threats of physical violence? Bribes? There are ways to design the system that guarantee that the voter can verify they voted but can't prove who they voted for. No need to keep the UUID secret. It's very desirable to have a system that we can trust even if conditions aren't necessarily antagonistic. BTW, thanks for engaging in this discussion. It's important and it's helping me rethink through all of this.

benchaney 10y ago
Those are problems with all voting systems. In the current system someone could Threaten/Bribe you to take a selfie with your ballet after it has been filled out.
- grzm 10y ago
  Okay. I'll grant that there are likely ways to potentially coerce or sell votes in any system. If there are straightforward, inexpensive ways to make it more difficult to do so, we should.
  - natch 10y ago
    The private, non-electronic ballot box makes it pretty hard. That's one of the main beauties of the system.
- aninhumer 10y ago
  Which is exactly why that should be banned as well.
- w00kie 10y ago
  You could take the selfie, throw away the ballot and make a new one.
  - VLM 10y ago
    The poll workers can and will force you to do that. They take great pride every election in telling the local TV news types doing human interest stories that taking pictures of ballots accomplishes little other than pissing off the 80 year old poll workers who now have to work even harder. Some probably do successfully slip thru the system. Another option is making a fake ballot. The local newspaper used to helpfully publish their suggestion of how a devout left wing progressive would fill out their ballot. They're currently the establishment, so they're likely to be the largest problem, and its solved right there.
- natch 10y ago
  That would be noticed by poll workers. No curtains anymore.