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After hearing people complain about the new Macbook limit on 16gb RAM, I went to check out what the Surface Book offers -- which is, also, a max of 16gb RAM.

coldtea 10y ago
And which nobody even thought of raising as an issue...
- dlss 10y ago
  Because in the windows market, surface isn't a laptop targeting video editors, game programmers, etc. It's a thin and light entry. Contrast with lenovo portable workstations which got 64gb over a year ago: http://www.theverge.com/2015/8/11/9129681/lenovo-skylake-xeon-notebooks-p50-p70 http://www.theverge.com/2015/8/11/9129681/lenovo-skylake-xeo... Apple produces every osx compatible device. This means it needs to produce at least one device that can meet the needs of power users.
  - codepope2014 10y ago
    Have you not watched MIcrosofts "can't do that in a Mac" campaign? 3D modelling, video editing, lots of heavy lift graphics apps...
    - coldtea 10y ago
      And yet most video editors I know use Macs, same for "heavy lift graphics apps". Nobody (ie very few) run around with a 8lbs/4hour battery "desktop replacement" PC to do such things on the go.
- dorfsmay 10y ago
  I don't know about the surface, but I've bee putting off my 6 year old Thinkpad x220 because the current replacement, the x260 has a 16gb limit.
  - pritambaral 10y ago
    The X series of ThinkPads are designed to be slim and light. If you want 32GB in a ThinkPad, there are other series available with 32GB units. Unfortunately, if you want a 32GB macOS laptop, you're out of luck with Apple.
    - fulafel 10y ago
      The X200 line (and predecessors X30 and X60 lines) are the 12" workhorse line that's more rugged than thin-and-light. The X1 line is the thin-and-light one.
    - dorfsmay 10y ago
      x220 is neither thin nor light! Especially with the extra battery. This is why I buy the x200 Thinkpad because they are small and can be used anywhere, yet thick an heavy because they are, or at least used to be, loaded.
      - mst 10y ago
        Right. I went X30 -> X40 -> X61s -> Tablet 2 -> Helix 2, the Tablet 2 as an experiment (I love the keyboard that came with it and keep that paired with my Nexus 7 now for emergency ssh-ing) and then I jumped to the Helix 2 rather than another X series because there didn't seem any point. Somewhere around 2019-2020 when I finish destroying the Helix 2 I'll probably end up back on an X series.
joshkpeterson 10y ago
Same for the razer stealth unfortunately, unless you get the pro which is quite the step up in price, near $3k IIRC?
nodamage 10y ago
Not to mention the Dell XPS 13 which also uses LPDDR3 and maxes out at 16 GB.

coldtea 10y ago

And which nobody even thought of raising as an issue...

dlss 10y ago
Because in the windows market, surface isn't a laptop targeting video editors, game programmers, etc. It's a thin and light entry. Contrast with lenovo portable workstations which got 64gb over a year ago: http://www.theverge.com/2015/8/11/9129681/lenovo-skylake-xeon-notebooks-p50-p70 http://www.theverge.com/2015/8/11/9129681/lenovo-skylake-xeo... Apple produces every osx compatible device. This means it needs to produce at least one device that can meet the needs of power users.
- codepope2014 10y ago
  Have you not watched MIcrosofts "can't do that in a Mac" campaign? 3D modelling, video editing, lots of heavy lift graphics apps...
  - coldtea 10y ago
    And yet most video editors I know use Macs, same for "heavy lift graphics apps". Nobody (ie very few) run around with a 8lbs/4hour battery "desktop replacement" PC to do such things on the go.
dorfsmay 10y ago
I don't know about the surface, but I've bee putting off my 6 year old Thinkpad x220 because the current replacement, the x260 has a 16gb limit.
- pritambaral 10y ago
  The X series of ThinkPads are designed to be slim and light. If you want 32GB in a ThinkPad, there are other series available with 32GB units. Unfortunately, if you want a 32GB macOS laptop, you're out of luck with Apple.
  - fulafel 10y ago
    The X200 line (and predecessors X30 and X60 lines) are the 12" workhorse line that's more rugged than thin-and-light. The X1 line is the thin-and-light one.
  - dorfsmay 10y ago
    x220 is neither thin nor light! Especially with the extra battery. This is why I buy the x200 Thinkpad because they are small and can be used anywhere, yet thick an heavy because they are, or at least used to be, loaded.
    - mst 10y ago
      Right. I went X30 -> X40 -> X61s -> Tablet 2 -> Helix 2, the Tablet 2 as an experiment (I love the keyboard that came with it and keep that paired with my Nexus 7 now for emergency ssh-ing) and then I jumped to the Helix 2 rather than another X series because there didn't seem any point. Somewhere around 2019-2020 when I finish destroying the Helix 2 I'll probably end up back on an X series.

joshkpeterson 10y ago

Same for the razer stealth unfortunately, unless you get the pro which is quite the step up in price, near $3k IIRC?

nodamage 10y ago

Not to mention the Dell XPS 13 which also uses LPDDR3 and maxes out at 16 GB.