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Why would your employer fix you to a specific version of chrome? Thats bizarre.
by jrowley 10y ago
Why would your employer fix you to a specific version of chrome? Thats bizarre.
- voltagex_ 10y agoYes, yes it is.
- cesarb 10y agoLarge companies tend to be bad at keeping up-to-date. I know of a bank that still uses OpenOffice. No, not Apache OpenOffice: they still use the real OpenOffice.org. Workstations are often locked down, so employees can't install or upgrade anything.
- ajdlinux 10y agoA friend of mine working for the government told me that in one major government agency, the most popular version of IE used on their website is IE11. The second most popular version? IE 6. Not even 8. IE 6. Who still uses it? Employees of other government departments...
- alanh 10y agoYeah… just a reminder: IE6 was released in August 2011.
- konklone 10y agoWhile this is plausible for the past, I think this info is outdated now. https://analytics.usa.gov https://analytics.usa.gov has lots of data on this (and you can break it out by agency using the dropdown at the top). It also estimates that only 5% of data comes from federal networks. (Disclaimer: I work on analytics.usa.gov.)
- ajdlinux 10y agoI didn't say US Government. Australia :)
- voltagex_ 10y agoWe should have analytics.dto.gov.au.
- konklone 10y agoIt's open source. ;) https://github.com/18f/analytics.usa.gov#analyticsusagov https://github.com/18f/analytics.usa.gov#analyticsusagov
- voltagex_ 10y agohttps://www.dto.gov.au/blog/building-better-services-with-analytics/ https://www.dto.gov.au/blog/building-better-services-with-an...
- tjalfi 10y agoI would hope that they are using IE11 set to IE6 compatibility mode. My employer has an application that requires IE5 compatibility mode.
- angry_octet 10y agoThis is because some project once created an internal application with a web interface, which was tested with IE6. This application may be critical to keeping people happy (e.g. the HR system) or some unqualified bozo may want to 'cut costs' like updating apps to new browsers, so mandates sticking to a 'stable' version like IE6. And all future apps will have to target IE6 forever more... It gets worse... People write apps that use Flash (online training) or Java applets. There are solutions to this, but none of them involve using the one true SOE, one SOE to rule them all!
- peterwwillis 10y agoEven if the employee can update it themselves, it is often prohibited, and fixing a vulnerability is treated as unauthorized installation of software, which is clearly against the terms of employment when using company computers. Whether they treat it as a big deal or not depends on who is involved, of course.
- acdha 10y agoNever underestimate the degree to which enterprise IT departments view change as something to be feared. I once heard someone say that they wanted to delay Chrome updates until their security team could review them — said review process basically being waiting in a backlog for weeks and then someone searches for CVEs posted on that version.
- nailer 10y ago> Never underestimate the degree to which enterprise IT departments view change as something to be feared. This. These supposedly risk-averse organisations also have no concept of the risk of stasis, only the risk of change.
- technion 10y agoI worked with a Government group that firmly rejected the concept of Windows security updates. The general premise was, if you apply an update and something breaks (note that "changed behaviour" means "broken"), someone's head will roll. If you do nothing and get compromised, it's those damned <country> hackers again.
- protomyth 10y ago> Never underestimate the degree to which enterprise IT departments view change as something to be feared. Never underestimate the management's ability to fire a Enterprise IT workers for applying an update that the developer's swear changes no behavior in the companies enterprise software, but actually does. // been on both sides, we suck at testing and risk assessment in this profession
- acdha 10y agoDefinitely — when you see people afraid to do something, that almost always indicates a deeper organization problem.
- woliveirajr 10y agoI (anecdote) know a country- sized governamental system that sticks to specific versions of Firefox. Not chrome or edge or IE or Safari or... Just Firefox. Specific versions. With some big lag when new versions of Firefox come out. Companies and citizens, live with that.
- voltagex_ 10y agoFirefox has the ESR release for this purpose.
- woliveirajr 10y agoYes, thanks for this information. But sadly no, they don't follow this kind of stable release.
- shthed 10y agoJava applets! I know a government department that'll be stuck on Chrome 44 for a looong time.
- protomyth 10y agoSomeone could make a mint selling a Java applet runner to government agencies.