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Actually all my money was on google, i expected them to drive into the scrapfield, after the car companys and Tesla pushed each other into a early market situat

Actually all my money was on google, i expected them to drive into the scrapfield, after the car companys and Tesla pushed each other into a early market situation and upped Legislation, kicking themselves out of the market, with a carnaggedon. But they backed out, because their managers want the chicken to exist before the egg. So, why not bet on the outsider?

agumonkey 10y ago
I liked Google's approach a lot. It seemed justly dimensioned, came out of Thrun DARPA success, had years and millions of miles of testing. What's not to love. Also G has the lever to accelerate and change tech if their old approach is obsolete. Sad they went silent since a year or so. I said it in other place, including HN, I don't consider Hotz an outsider, but mostly glorified hacker (his attitude with institutions and media don't help me clear this impression); and I don't think hacker mentality bodes well with this task.
- Pica_soO 10y ago
  Actually, that is a very humanistic point of view. There are third-world countrys where a margin of life-loss is considered "acceptable". And sorry, but Teslas approach, seems to be a similar hacky "Wing-it with PR-Guns blazing".
  - agumonkey 10y ago
    About the first point, do countries where such acceptable risk still exist really need self driving vehicles that early ? Could be delayed a bit. About the second point, see my above comment https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12841767 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12841767
- sorenjan 10y ago
  Isn't Google's approach dependent on expensive LIDARs and high resolution 3D maps [0], or have they changed that? I don't see that kind of system scale well. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXylqtEQ0tk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXylqtEQ0tk
  - agumonkey 10y ago
    I've read LIDAR cost was dropping fast, it was expensive at the time and as a short production item; nowadays it's even small. About the 3D mapping you're probably right, I somehow expected it not to be a deep problem.

agumonkey 10y ago

I liked Google's approach a lot. It seemed justly dimensioned, came out of Thrun DARPA success, had years and millions of miles of testing. What's not to love. Also G has the lever to accelerate and change tech if their old approach is obsolete. Sad they went silent since a year or so. I said it in other place, including HN, I don't consider Hotz an outsider, but mostly glorified hacker (his attitude with institutions and media don't help me clear this impression); and I don't think hacker mentality bodes well with this task.

Pica_soO 10y ago
Actually, that is a very humanistic point of view. There are third-world countrys where a margin of life-loss is considered "acceptable". And sorry, but Teslas approach, seems to be a similar hacky "Wing-it with PR-Guns blazing".
- agumonkey 10y ago
  About the first point, do countries where such acceptable risk still exist really need self driving vehicles that early ? Could be delayed a bit. About the second point, see my above comment https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12841767 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12841767
sorenjan 10y ago
Isn't Google's approach dependent on expensive LIDARs and high resolution 3D maps [0], or have they changed that? I don't see that kind of system scale well. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXylqtEQ0tk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXylqtEQ0tk
- agumonkey 10y ago
  I've read LIDAR cost was dropping fast, it was expensive at the time and as a short production item; nowadays it's even small. About the 3D mapping you're probably right, I somehow expected it not to be a deep problem.