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The highest price of the 15" MacBook Pro 2013 was 2300 € with a 512 GB SSD, 2,3 GHz Intel Core i7, 16 GB Memory and a Nvidia Whatever Card. Basically I even add

by merb 10y ago

The highest price of the 15" MacBook Pro 2013 was 2300 € with a 512 GB SSD, 2,3 GHz Intel Core i7, 16 GB Memory and a Nvidia Whatever Card. Basically I even added a 100 Euro/140USD extra Storage with 256 GB to fit my needs (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00WGARJGU/ https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00WGARJGU/). Now the cheapest model with 512 GB SSD would cost 2500 € without a Extra Slot, which would make it 200 € pricier without taking inflation into account but which would only be 20€ - 40€ in Germany and I forgot that it won't have a dedicated graphics card which the 2013er had for a smaller price. (And not taking into Account that SSD prices are dropping) Actually even their additional option do suggest that "Developers" are not their target. You can preinstall Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro, you couldn't pre install that on the 2013er and now you can even upgrade your dedicated graphics card memory, so that makes it even a bigger target for Designers, Movie specialists etc. Just not useful for developers, since they will probably need more dongles than just one, I can count myself at least buying 6-7 of them.

aq3cn 10y ago
You are forgetting that people like to buy Apple product for status symbol. Like $10,000 gold Apple Watch. It works same as $400 watch but along with that it also work as a good reminder of your wealth. Apple products are not for poor folks and it has been made clear several time.
- merb 10y ago
  price is not a problem, but getting worse and having a higher price is bad. Also I actually used the function key, the SD slot and need at least one USB slot. and there aren't many USB-C docks available so keeping my old Thunderbolt dock would be great, but that is possible by buying another Dongle for 50 Euro http://www.apple.com/shop/product/MMEL2AM/A/thunderbolt-3-usb-c-to-thunderbolt-2-adapter http://www.apple.com/shop/product/MMEL2AM/A/thunderbolt-3-us... So my overall sum would be at least 3000 € to have at least 756 GB storage 16 GB memory enough Dongle's and a dedicated graphics card. For the 2013er version we actually had a bill of 2600 Euro, but we also bought a dock, additional storage and a additional charger. If Apple would actually provide enough value to satisfy the price increase, i would say that it's fine, but they didn't they even made it pricier and removed stuff that I actually need to pay more for Accessoires. I'm actually really really happy with my late 2013 15" but I probably need to wait till for the new one till USB-c is more common to satisfy the additional price and I basically never need the touch bar, I don't see any value in it. I mean contextual bases switching is nonsense. I want to stop the music without having iTunes open.
  - vetinari 10y ago
    Actually price is starting to be a problem, for businesses in some EU countries. We have a tax law, that exactly specifies what you can expense as a tax-admitted OPEX during a year, and what you must depreciate over several years as CAPEX. For laptops, the amount is below 1700 EUR (without VAT, so that makes it 2040 EUR with 20% VAT) and the duration of depreciation is 4 years. No way most businesses are going do depreciate laptops for 4 years, unless there's a very pressing business need. The recent 200 EUR price hike severely limits the useful configurations available.
- aetherson 10y ago
  That $10,000 watch was a failure that has been discontinued.

by merb 10y ago

aq3cn 10y ago

You are forgetting that people like to buy Apple product for status symbol. Like $10,000 gold Apple Watch. It works same as $400 watch but along with that it also work as a good reminder of your wealth. Apple products are not for poor folks and it has been made clear several time.

merb 10y ago
price is not a problem, but getting worse and having a higher price is bad. Also I actually used the function key, the SD slot and need at least one USB slot. and there aren't many USB-C docks available so keeping my old Thunderbolt dock would be great, but that is possible by buying another Dongle for 50 Euro http://www.apple.com/shop/product/MMEL2AM/A/thunderbolt-3-usb-c-to-thunderbolt-2-adapter http://www.apple.com/shop/product/MMEL2AM/A/thunderbolt-3-us... So my overall sum would be at least 3000 € to have at least 756 GB storage 16 GB memory enough Dongle's and a dedicated graphics card. For the 2013er version we actually had a bill of 2600 Euro, but we also bought a dock, additional storage and a additional charger. If Apple would actually provide enough value to satisfy the price increase, i would say that it's fine, but they didn't they even made it pricier and removed stuff that I actually need to pay more for Accessoires. I'm actually really really happy with my late 2013 15" but I probably need to wait till for the new one till USB-c is more common to satisfy the additional price and I basically never need the touch bar, I don't see any value in it. I mean contextual bases switching is nonsense. I want to stop the music without having iTunes open.
- vetinari 10y ago
  Actually price is starting to be a problem, for businesses in some EU countries. We have a tax law, that exactly specifies what you can expense as a tax-admitted OPEX during a year, and what you must depreciate over several years as CAPEX. For laptops, the amount is below 1700 EUR (without VAT, so that makes it 2040 EUR with 20% VAT) and the duration of depreciation is 4 years. No way most businesses are going do depreciate laptops for 4 years, unless there's a very pressing business need. The recent 200 EUR price hike severely limits the useful configurations available.
aetherson 10y ago
That $10,000 watch was a failure that has been discontinued.