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There is some that I agree with in here, and some that I disagree with. Ultimately I think it's fairly well thought out, though I am personally excited about th
by manacit 10y ago
There is some that I agree with in here, and some that I disagree with. Ultimately I think it's fairly well thought out, though I am personally excited about the new apps for Apple TV.
The lack of 4k/UHD/HDR support in the Apple TV is, I agree, not cool. When the ATV4 came out, it was excusable - there was not a lot of 4k content, and 4k TVs were more expensive than they are now. In the interim, they have gone down in price and there is much more content available in UHD.
As far as the new TV and Live TV apps, I am very excited. The ATV is my window into all of the media consumption that I do on TV - I use Plex to stream things from my NAS, Netflix to watch Netflix, ABC, CBS, ESPN, etc. apps to watch on demand TV, and I am mostly very happy with it. These new apps are going to make that a much better viewing experience - syncing up all of my logins, and providing a central point to browse and stream. I view this as a pretty big win over the experience on other devices.
Even though Netflix (and I'm assuming Plex) won't be included, it's still a big step up from having to use the Fox, Fox Sports, CBS, NBC, ESPN, ABC, etc. apps to know which channel the college football game is on (usually ESPN, sometimes Pac 12 Network or CBS), or what channel airs a particular TV show.
Ultimately, I have a 1080p TV, so I'm not missing the inability to stream in 4k. My next device will undoubtedly be 4k however, and I would be very bummed if Apple did not have a device that was capable of producing 4k video.
- crooked-v 10y agoNetflix won't be included. https://www.wired.com/2016/10/apples-new-tv-app-wont-netflix-amazon-video/ https://www.wired.com/2016/10/apples-new-tv-app-wont-netflix...
- harryh 10y agoThis is just me guessing, but it kinda feels like Plex won't either.
- crooked-v 10y agoUnlike Netflix, Plex doesn't have any interest in directly controlling content, so I'd be really surprised if they didn't participate. tvOS/iOS TV app integration would be a great selling point for the Plex Cloud and Plex DVR premium features.
- madeofpalk 10y agoWell it depends if the TV app is available through an open API, or whether you must be invited in by Apple much like their TV Siri and universal search integrations.
- manacit 10y agoI should have mentioned - I don't mind Netflix (and Plex) not being included. Maybe it's a big jump in my head, but the apps that I want grouped together are the "traditional" (cable station) apps that are usually low quality and require a multi-step 'activation' process to work on every device. I can deal with a few standouts if it means I don't need to remember what TV station x or y is on.
- mabermoske 10y agoI'm in exactly the same boat. I also recently started using Channels to stream my local channels and I absolutely love it!
- alfalfasprout 10y agoThe problem with 4K availability is that content providers have put so much effort into preventing leaks by strangling their content with tons of DRM. That means, HDCP requirements, absolutely no playing content on a PC, etc. It'll be years before you see any kind of UHD via cable. Not to mention consumer internet providers provide horrible service across the US which can't even support the bandwidth needed for those streams.
- mahyarm 10y agoI don't think it will take long for apple to create a new apple TV with 4k output if the market goes that way quickly.
- manacit 10y agoThat'd be a pretty big bummer for anyone who adopted it recently though - I'm not sure if I could justify another $200 just for 4k when there are plenty of <$100 devices that can do it right now.
- mahyarm 10y agoIt's a $150 device, not $200 base price, and that argument applies to almost anything apple. The phones, laptops, even the airplay wifi spots are more expensive than an equivalent. They also retain their resale value, so selling the old one isn't hard or a big loss compared to the android equivalent. They also care about security and will get updates for many years to come, also unlike most android devices. People also update their other devices at a much higher frequency, I don't think the 4K edition coming out is going to be a big deal.