>I'm also 40+ and single, never married so of course I wonder what would have happened if I had asked out woman X instead of being hung up on woman Y. But then

>I'm also 40+ and single, never married so of course I wonder what would have happened if I had asked out woman X instead of being hung up on woman Y. But then I could be divorced and a parent or something (I don't want kids). You don't have to not want kids for this to be a big problem. Being divorced with kids is a gigantic PITA, even if you love kids. I have a female friend like this (I tried dating her but she didn't want to be anything more than "just friends"); she really has NO free time. I'm not really sure why she even bothers maintaining an OKC profile; it took me 3 months of exchanging dozens of messages to get her to meet me for a coffee date! She couldn't even stay long there because she had to get back to her parents to pick up her kid. (She wrote back after the date and said we "weren't a match"; I have no idea why and I really don't want to ask her). Anyway, point is, if you're divorced with kids and have custody, you will have NO free time for anything, including more dating, until the kids are at least 10 years old. That's a really big commitment, and a big risk considering the divorce rates these days. Worse yet, this woman's kid seems a little autistic and has some really odd behavioral issues. Good luck getting a decent man to want to jump into that situation... It seems to me that maybe people should be required to take some kind of classes to help identify good relationship partners when they're young, because most of these cases seem to be the result of people picking absolutely awful partners for relationships, and then popping out a kid or two before they finally throw in the towel. This girl (well, woman, she's almost 40 now) had all kinds of horror stories to tell about her sociopathic ex that she had met in college. Having kids is really a giant commitment and a gigantic risk. It's no wonder educated and professional people aren't bothering with it very much; by the time they get situated well enough in their careers, get their student loans paid off and get financially stable, and then get through the dating process and manage to find someone they really like and are confident they're a solid long-term partner, they're too old biologically to have kids! All the people I see having kids these days are in their early 20s, blue collar or military and not college educated, and they're usually having kids out of wedlock, and not even staying together after the kid is born. I honestly feel really sorry for kids growing up these days.