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While I don't mind people sharing their work, I would argue quite the opposite. Make what you want and don't actively share it. Don't waste your time sharing an

While I don't mind people sharing their work, I would argue quite the opposite. Make what you want and don't actively share it. Don't waste your time sharing and documenting only to waste even more time maintaining your project if "it becomes successful". >Any programmer worth their salt has a collection of repos Repos are cool but don't be a programmer. Programmers make programs. You should probably make money. If something is not worth selling, probably is not worth actively sharing & supporting either. Bill Gates is not known for his collection of repos. > Factor in the extra time needed on your projects to tune your work and make it resonate with your audience. Be a prolific sharer. Yeah, and don't forget to whip yourself regularly.

5ilv3r 10y ago
Does converting microusb cables to OTG dongles by hand count as a good whipping? crack!
mbrock 10y ago
"If something is not worth selling, probably is not worth actively sharing & supporting either." Depends on where you get your motivation and enjoyment.
moron4hire 10y ago
That's a bit like saying "carpenters make furniture. You should probably make money." Our craft is programming. In order to create unique value where others haven't out of programs, you should probably be good at programming. If the unique value we would create were out of design, we'd be designers. If it were out of reports, we'd be statisticians. Know your craft and be good at it.
- leaveyou 10y ago
  I bet there are a lot less carpenters "worth their salt" giving away their designs and "sharing" furniture for free than programmers. Still, if you want and afford to profess for fame and good will, do it..
  - moron4hire 10y ago
    I think you would be very surprised to see the insides of many periodicals focused on carpentry. Open source and information sharing wasn't invented by a bunch of programmers at Stanford in the 70s.
    - leaveyou 10y ago
      >periodicals focused on carpentry Are those periodicals distributed for free ? ad free ? written and printed by carpenters ? Do they give free samples of furniture too ? Your counter analogy just does not stand..
      - TeMPOraL 10y ago
        Before the Internet, publishing and distributing was expensive. But in about every craft, you have people hosting their knowledge and designs for free from the earliest days of the Internet. First self-publishing (webpages) and mail groups, later also on-line forums.
        leaveyou 10y ago
        I have barely shared an opinion and I'm already forced to offer countless minutes of free "support" because someone on the internet misunderstood it or has surplus minutes for arguing. Now imagine if I had posted a github link to some fancy router, brand new web framework for Golang or whatever. Sorry but I really don't have time to explain you that I don't have time for "free support" even if the hosting is cheap now.
        TeMPOraL 10y ago
        You're not forced to do anything. You can share stuff and then not reply to people's comments. I think most people understand that others too are busy.
        leaveyou 10y ago
TeMPOraL 10y ago
> Yeah, and don't forget to whip yourself regularly. Interesting in the context of "Programmers make programs. You should probably make money." Last time I checked, (the need of) making money was the whip ensuring people produce stuff. As a society, we put up with most people routinly producing the worst possible crap they can get away with, while inventing new creative ways to take more money for it, only because it ensures enough stuff gets produced for everyone to go around. > If something is not worth selling, probably is not worth actively sharing & supporting either. I beg to disagree. A lot of well-selling products today should not even exist. Marketing has much better ROI than delivering something of value. OTOH, a lot of things that absolutely should be supported and rewared isn't. Think about infrastructure, or people like paramedics. But hey, maybe that's why I'm poor - I consider making money as an unpleasant necessity instead of end goal.
20years 10y ago
>Repos are cool but don't be a programmer. Programmers make programs. You should probably make money This is an interesting point. I like to think of myself as a business owner/entrepreneur who programs. Programming is such a small part of what I do. Of course if you want to be a Programmer, there is nothing wrong with that. Some people don't want to have to worry about biz dev or all of the other stuff and just want to code/create/build.

5ilv3r 10y ago

Does converting microusb cables to OTG dongles by hand count as a good whipping? crack!

mbrock 10y ago

"If something is not worth selling, probably is not worth actively sharing & supporting either." Depends on where you get your motivation and enjoyment.

moron4hire 10y ago

That's a bit like saying "carpenters make furniture. You should probably make money." Our craft is programming. In order to create unique value where others haven't out of programs, you should probably be good at programming. If the unique value we would create were out of design, we'd be designers. If it were out of reports, we'd be statisticians. Know your craft and be good at it.

leaveyou 10y ago
I bet there are a lot less carpenters "worth their salt" giving away their designs and "sharing" furniture for free than programmers. Still, if you want and afford to profess for fame and good will, do it..
- moron4hire 10y ago
  I think you would be very surprised to see the insides of many periodicals focused on carpentry. Open source and information sharing wasn't invented by a bunch of programmers at Stanford in the 70s.
  - leaveyou 10y ago
    >periodicals focused on carpentry Are those periodicals distributed for free ? ad free ? written and printed by carpenters ? Do they give free samples of furniture too ? Your counter analogy just does not stand..
    - TeMPOraL 10y ago
      Before the Internet, publishing and distributing was expensive. But in about every craft, you have people hosting their knowledge and designs for free from the earliest days of the Internet. First self-publishing (webpages) and mail groups, later also on-line forums.
      - leaveyou 10y ago
        I have barely shared an opinion and I'm already forced to offer countless minutes of free "support" because someone on the internet misunderstood it or has surplus minutes for arguing. Now imagine if I had posted a github link to some fancy router, brand new web framework for Golang or whatever. Sorry but I really don't have time to explain you that I don't have time for "free support" even if the hosting is cheap now.
        TeMPOraL 10y ago
        You're not forced to do anything. You can share stuff and then not reply to people's comments. I think most people understand that others too are busy.
        leaveyou 10y ago

TeMPOraL 10y ago

> Yeah, and don't forget to whip yourself regularly. Interesting in the context of "Programmers make programs. You should probably make money." Last time I checked, (the need of) making money was the whip ensuring people produce stuff. As a society, we put up with most people routinly producing the worst possible crap they can get away with, while inventing new creative ways to take more money for it, only because it ensures enough stuff gets produced for everyone to go around. > If something is not worth selling, probably is not worth actively sharing & supporting either. I beg to disagree. A lot of well-selling products today should not even exist. Marketing has much better ROI than delivering something of value. OTOH, a lot of things that absolutely should be supported and rewared isn't. Think about infrastructure, or people like paramedics. But hey, maybe that's why I'm poor - I consider making money as an unpleasant necessity instead of end goal.

20years 10y ago

>Repos are cool but don't be a programmer. Programmers make programs. You should probably make money This is an interesting point. I like to think of myself as a business owner/entrepreneur who programs. Programming is such a small part of what I do. Of course if you want to be a Programmer, there is nothing wrong with that. Some people don't want to have to worry about biz dev or all of the other stuff and just want to code/create/build.