Yeah, as far as innovation is concerned, they are about as innovative as lenovo. I'm sure nobody is especially worried. I see a really bad windows-based ipad k

Yeah, as far as innovation is concerned, they are about as innovative as lenovo. I'm sure nobody is especially worried. I see a really bad windows-based ipad knockoff, and a tacky surface knockoff. Not sure how that's worth the hyperbole there. I own a surface. It's a terrible form factor full of attractive but poor-performing features. Someone does need to improve the laptop (it's my number 1 go-to device), but these guys aren't it.