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I can't imagine that happening. They'd piss off all the customers that bought lightning accessories, lose control over the connector, and get what in return?
by dpark 10y ago
I can't imagine that happening. They'd piss off all the customers that bought lightning accessories, lose control over the connector, and get what in return?
- Klathmon 10y agoNot only that but the fact that people are buying lightning headphones for the current gen. They are in a shitty place right now. They can't go USB-c without pissing off a good amount of their customers, but they can stick with lightening forever either (it's already starting to show its age WRT transfer speeds and other abilities)
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- SysArchitect 10y agoThey could upgrade lightning to support USB-3... Lightning doesn't specify the USB protocol.
- wvenable 10y agoI assume that's why they haven't already switched but they just releases Macbooks with nothing but USB-C connectors so I imagine the debate must be on internally at Apple.
- massysett 10y agoApple's long history of port and drive removal demonstrates that pissing off customers is not a prime concern. Lost licensing revenue might bother them though.
- dpark 10y agoThey seem happy to do this if they think there is value. I'm not sure what the value of USB-C is on the iPhone. The negatives are pretty obvious. The positive mostly seems to be that they can share cables with Android phones, which I cannot imagine is something execs at Apple care about. Someone else raised an interesting point about docks. The lightning connection is designed to be strong enough to support a phone in a doc. I'm pretty sure this is not a design consideration for USB-C given how no one seems to care about Android docks.
- wvenable 10y agoYou can hold your phone upside down connected to the lightning connector -- it's really quite impressive. USB connectors are much more fiddly. The advantage of USB-C isn't so much in physical connection but the actual capabilities of the interface. Lightning isn't very powerful by comparison.
- pritambaral 10y ago> it's really quite impressive. It is? I've been charging my Moto G for a few months like that.
- dpark 10y agoHolding your phone upside down isn't an interesting test. That's just the holding power of the plug. More interesting and relevant is whether you can hold the phone at an angle, which is what a dock does. This puts a lot of stress on both the connector and the phone's jack. I would expect Micro-USB to fall apart from this abuse. I'd don't know about USB-C but don't have high hopes.
- ianburrell 10y agoUSB Type C seems to be much sturdier than microUSB. The metal sleeve has tighter tolerance and larger area. Can easily hold phone upside down. Should be able to support phone by itself. Problem is more taking more force to remove from dock or cable.
- chimeracoder 10y ago> I'm not sure what the value of USB-C is on the iPhone. Ridiculously fast charging, plus the ability to use the same charger for both your laptop and your phone. Being able to consolidate all the chargers I own is an unbelievably exciting promise. That's only an option for me because I use an Android phone.
- eridius 10y agoI don't understand this argument. If I'm using my laptop charger, my phone can't use it at the same time. And if I'm not using my laptop charger, it's probably stowed in my bag, and it's a lot simpler to pull out my phone's charger than it is to pull out my laptop charger. So I'm having trouble imagining a scenario where I'd actually ever plug my phone into my laptop charger.
- BrandonY 10y agoCompatibility with their new MacBook Pros, which have four USB C adapters and nothing else.
- stouset 10y agoFor basically forever, we've had USB devices with two separate types of prong on each end. How is USB-C to Lightning any different?
- dpark 10y agoI think most of the arguments here are from some hypothetical future where every device on the planet has standardized on USB-C except the iPhone.