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I have almost $1000 invested in over-the-ear Sennheisers and custom fitted in-ear Shures. I don't think I'm going back to the audiologist to spend more hundred

I have almost $1000 invested in over-the-ear Sennheisers and custom fitted in-ear Shures. I don't think I'm going back to the audiologist to spend more hundreds of dollars a second pair that only works with iPhones and not my Mac or any pro audio equipment. Or depending on any battery device (like wireless headphones) that can't be plugged in while operating. Or having a device in my pocket that I can't plug in to a real PA system to test. Or paying what I currently pay for headphones that are iOS XOR Android. Apple may be right for the millions who only ever use the included headphones, but in a world with compelling iOS alternatives that still have headphone jacks, I'm not throwing away the rest of my equipment or carrying adapters everywhere.

askafriend 10y ago
Just plug the adapter into the end of your headphone jack and leave it there. It's a female adapter, so it can just hang off of your existing 3.5mm jack. You make it sound far more annoying than it actually is.
- JustSomeNobody 10y ago
  You make it sound only slightly less annoying, TBH.
- bhandziuk 10y ago
  And get one adapter for each set of headphones. And if you then use those headphones with nay other device and unplug the adapter just hope you don't set it somewhere and forget it. It adds too many unnecessary steps.
  - askafriend 10y ago
    That's completely fair. However that's a corner case for most people. I think the general use case is that people have routines in their day to day and fit these devices into their predictable routines. Adapters suck for unpredictable situations but those aren't common enough and Apple knows this.
    - ebrewste 10y ago
      I consider the unpredictable case the several to many years it takes to upgrade all the devices between my wife and me. It probably took 3 years to get rid of all the 30 pin devices in our house. I don't see why it will be any better switching away from 1/8".
    - pritambaral 10y ago
      > However that's a corner case for most people. Using a pair of headphones with multiple devices? At least between phone and laptop? That's not a corner case, even though Apple seems to think so by skipping out on a Lightning port on the Macs after putting out lightning headphones.
  - squeaky-clean 10y ago
    Ugh, I lose a 1/8" to 1/4" adapter for my headphones at least once a month. I've bought extra and try to keep one in any device I have with a 1/4" port, and yet still they manage to come out and get lost. It's easy and cheap to order a dozen of those. It's not going to be cheap to order a dozen lightning->analog adapters.
  - superuser2 10y ago
    Exactly. It's a doable workaround, but doesn't make sense when "just buy a Pixel instead" is an option.
malthaus 10y ago
Why do you feed your expensive headphones with the sub-par audio from an iPhone A/D converter (probably listening to lossy compressed MP3 in the first place)? As long as you do that, the pain of having a (free) dongle attached to it kind of fades in comparison.
- Ar-Curunir 10y ago
  Maybe it's convenient to have high quality headphones for high quality listening, but then also be able to use that with other devices?

askafriend 10y ago

Just plug the adapter into the end of your headphone jack and leave it there. It's a female adapter, so it can just hang off of your existing 3.5mm jack. You make it sound far more annoying than it actually is.

JustSomeNobody 10y ago
You make it sound only slightly less annoying, TBH.
bhandziuk 10y ago
And get one adapter for each set of headphones. And if you then use those headphones with nay other device and unplug the adapter just hope you don't set it somewhere and forget it. It adds too many unnecessary steps.
- askafriend 10y ago
  That's completely fair. However that's a corner case for most people. I think the general use case is that people have routines in their day to day and fit these devices into their predictable routines. Adapters suck for unpredictable situations but those aren't common enough and Apple knows this.
  - ebrewste 10y ago
    I consider the unpredictable case the several to many years it takes to upgrade all the devices between my wife and me. It probably took 3 years to get rid of all the 30 pin devices in our house. I don't see why it will be any better switching away from 1/8".
  - pritambaral 10y ago
    > However that's a corner case for most people. Using a pair of headphones with multiple devices? At least between phone and laptop? That's not a corner case, even though Apple seems to think so by skipping out on a Lightning port on the Macs after putting out lightning headphones.
- squeaky-clean 10y ago
  Ugh, I lose a 1/8" to 1/4" adapter for my headphones at least once a month. I've bought extra and try to keep one in any device I have with a 1/4" port, and yet still they manage to come out and get lost. It's easy and cheap to order a dozen of those. It's not going to be cheap to order a dozen lightning->analog adapters.
- superuser2 10y ago
  Exactly. It's a doable workaround, but doesn't make sense when "just buy a Pixel instead" is an option.

malthaus 10y ago

Why do you feed your expensive headphones with the sub-par audio from an iPhone A/D converter (probably listening to lossy compressed MP3 in the first place)? As long as you do that, the pain of having a (free) dongle attached to it kind of fades in comparison.

Ar-Curunir 10y ago
Maybe it's convenient to have high quality headphones for high quality listening, but then also be able to use that with other devices?