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My Lenovo, which cost >$800 and had a $120 SSD upgrade from 2007 still runs just fine. What alternative evidence is there that macs last longer other than fanat

My Lenovo, which cost >$800 and had a $120 SSD upgrade from 2007 still runs just fine. What alternative evidence is there that macs last longer other than fanatical circle jerking? Do those upgrades listed include labor at apple care? The numbers don't even add up. Not to mention, unless there have been some large strides in macOS lately, older apple products seem to lag pretty hard when you upgrade to the current OS and basically stop working if you don't. Windows 10 runs great on old PCs and many apps still function all the way back to Windows Vista.

a_plastic_bag 10y ago
From what I found, Apple's laptops are sligthly above average in terms of reliability [0]. Sqaretrade sells warranties though, so there might be some selection bias, but I'm not sure if it would benefit Apple or not. [0] https://resource.squaretrade.com/laptop-reliability-1109 https://resource.squaretrade.com/laptop-reliability-1109
- greenshackle2 10y ago
  I'm willing to assume the selection bias affects all brands in a similar enough way to call it even. The bigger issues is that this is 7 years old now, I wouldn't rely on it too much unless you're buying an 8-10 year old laptop.
greenshackle2 10y ago
Parent didn't include a link, but I guess they're talking about this: http://www.businessinsider.com/an-ibm-it-guy-macs-are-300-cheaper-to-own-than-windows-2016-10 http://www.businessinsider.com/an-ibm-it-guy-macs-are-300-ch... The IBM guy said Macs are more expensive to buy but cheaper to support, because >Only 5% of IBM's Mac employees needed help-desk support, versus 40% of PC users Guessing what percentage of Linux users needed help desk support is left as an exercise to the reader. The economics of a business maintaining a fleet of laptops for mostly clueless users vs a tech-savvy individual maintaining their own laptop are not the same. Also keep in mind that IBM started a Mac enterprise integration service last year. I'll let you draw your own conclusions.

a_plastic_bag 10y ago

From what I found, Apple's laptops are sligthly above average in terms of reliability [0]. Sqaretrade sells warranties though, so there might be some selection bias, but I'm not sure if it would benefit Apple or not. [0] https://resource.squaretrade.com/laptop-reliability-1109 https://resource.squaretrade.com/laptop-reliability-1109

greenshackle2 10y ago
I'm willing to assume the selection bias affects all brands in a similar enough way to call it even. The bigger issues is that this is 7 years old now, I wouldn't rely on it too much unless you're buying an 8-10 year old laptop.

greenshackle2 10y ago

Parent didn't include a link, but I guess they're talking about this: http://www.businessinsider.com/an-ibm-it-guy-macs-are-300-cheaper-to-own-than-windows-2016-10 http://www.businessinsider.com/an-ibm-it-guy-macs-are-300-ch... The IBM guy said Macs are more expensive to buy but cheaper to support, because >Only 5% of IBM's Mac employees needed help-desk support, versus 40% of PC users Guessing what percentage of Linux users needed help desk support is left as an exercise to the reader. The economics of a business maintaining a fleet of laptops for mostly clueless users vs a tech-savvy individual maintaining their own laptop are not the same. Also keep in mind that IBM started a Mac enterprise integration service last year. I'll let you draw your own conclusions.