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I once got my former employer to get me a Surface Book for a laptop upgrade. It was...okay, nothing to write home about (and bear in mind I worked in a Windows

I once got my former employer to get me a Surface Book for a laptop upgrade. It was...okay, nothing to write home about (and bear in mind I worked in a Windows shop). Normally I'd think it's not a close comparison, but at least MSFT didn't get rid of the damn function keys (I know they're still sorta there but come on). The magic touch bar thing still pisses me off.

Klathmon 10y ago
That's interesting. I got a surface book several months ago, and it's kept me on windows. I was one more shitty laptop away from jumping ship to a macbook pro and linux desktop, but the surface showed me that a windows laptop doesn't need to be trash. They finally nailed the hardware, and while it had a rocky start (the first month or so was pretty iffy with bluescreens and I did have to return one due to the latch not working right) it's been smooth sailing ever since. Pretty much all of my complaints about it have to do with windows the OS at this point (the most annoying one being that sleep is still absolute trash compared to macos. I was fucking floored when i closed a macbook once, left it on my desk unplugged for 2 weeks, and when I opened the screen it was right back where i left it within a second with like 40% battery left. Not booting up, not an image of what it was before while it started, literally right where I left it.)
- BrandonLive 10y ago
  Just FYI the sleep experience should be the same on the Surface Book. If you close and open it should resume immediately. If you close for two weeks and open, it willl have dozed to hibernate and should resume from hibernate in about 5 seconds to exactly where you were, with most of its battery left (hibernate uses no power).
  - Klathmon 10y ago
    If i have it closed for more than an hour, i need to hit the power button to wake it (opening it won't wake it up). If it's closed for less than an hour, if you hit the power button it re-sleeps the device while it's waking up. So i need to stare at a black screen for a few seconds to see what it's going to do. (the macbook is literally on by the time it's fully opened)] But even then I also have problems where the device will restart while it's hibernating or sleeping, or where it will tell me it needs to restart for an update literally minutes after I start it up. It's a minor thing, but it's one of the examples of where the Apple side of things has prioritized that stuff working more than not, and it's clearly a "checkbox to check off" on the Windows side. I never felt that it was a problem until I used a macbook. I had assumed that sleep and things like it just sucked with computers. It sucks on linux, it sucks on windows. I figured it just was doomed to suck. But when I started using a macbook every now and then, it blew me away when I could just open the lid, and have the computer there and running instantly every single time.

Klathmon 10y ago

That's interesting. I got a surface book several months ago, and it's kept me on windows. I was one more shitty laptop away from jumping ship to a macbook pro and linux desktop, but the surface showed me that a windows laptop doesn't need to be trash. They finally nailed the hardware, and while it had a rocky start (the first month or so was pretty iffy with bluescreens and I did have to return one due to the latch not working right) it's been smooth sailing ever since. Pretty much all of my complaints about it have to do with windows the OS at this point (the most annoying one being that sleep is still absolute trash compared to macos. I was fucking floored when i closed a macbook once, left it on my desk unplugged for 2 weeks, and when I opened the screen it was right back where i left it within a second with like 40% battery left. Not booting up, not an image of what it was before while it started, literally right where I left it.)

BrandonLive 10y ago
Just FYI the sleep experience should be the same on the Surface Book. If you close and open it should resume immediately. If you close for two weeks and open, it willl have dozed to hibernate and should resume from hibernate in about 5 seconds to exactly where you were, with most of its battery left (hibernate uses no power).
- Klathmon 10y ago
  If i have it closed for more than an hour, i need to hit the power button to wake it (opening it won't wake it up). If it's closed for less than an hour, if you hit the power button it re-sleeps the device while it's waking up. So i need to stare at a black screen for a few seconds to see what it's going to do. (the macbook is literally on by the time it's fully opened)] But even then I also have problems where the device will restart while it's hibernating or sleeping, or where it will tell me it needs to restart for an update literally minutes after I start it up. It's a minor thing, but it's one of the examples of where the Apple side of things has prioritized that stuff working more than not, and it's clearly a "checkbox to check off" on the Windows side. I never felt that it was a problem until I used a macbook. I had assumed that sleep and things like it just sucked with computers. It sucks on linux, it sucks on windows. I figured it just was doomed to suck. But when I started using a macbook every now and then, it blew me away when I could just open the lid, and have the computer there and running instantly every single time.