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I have not seen any amount of corruption which convinces me of genuine wrongdoing. The biggest thing I've seen is a lowest level classified document was sent t

I have not seen any amount of corruption which convinces me of genuine wrongdoing. The biggest thing I've seen is a lowest level classified document was sent to an unsecured email account. In my opinion, the whole email thing is making a mountain out of a molehill to rile up Trump supporters and give them some irrational reason to oppose the other side. It's groupthink at its finest. The sexual predator stuff is the same thing on the other side, both issues are totally irrelevant. I'm voting for Hillary because she is far better suited for the position, and her platform isn't based on bullying and boasting of impossible plans.

hga 10y ago
Getting off topic, but "lowest level classified document was sent to an unsecured email account" does not describe the NSA TS/SCI/SAP GAMMA material a no longer cleared Sidney Blumenthal sent out. I suppose there are higher level classified materials like nuclear weapons designs (check out the DoE Q clearance), but GAMMA is already stratospheric and the compromise of it is in the "can get people killed in real time" variety. If you haven't read about this, you need to expand your sources of information. I've also read, without sufficient verification, that the names of 4 CIA agents were burned, and in general it's clear it's a counter-intelligence nightmare of catastrophic and unprecedented proportions. ADDED: Getting back to the email in question (which I found in full at https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/36617 https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/36617) there's no way of telling if anything nefarious was implied, it's all the way back to mid-2014, so unless the structure was set up so illegal coordination would be required, and which sort of structure was to be set up was in the air, it's unlikely illegal "illegit" was implicated. More likely Schmidt was generally ignorant of the details of these sorts of things and wanted to make sure the structure would be set up so nothing like that would come into play. And we haven't heard of anything like it with whatever his org eventually became, but it's something to be careful about, as the Project Veritas sting videos demonstrate.
- bobsgame 10y ago
  OK, so she messed up with some emails. That's still not enough to make me want to vote for a pushy business guy whose platform consists of impossible claims and juvenile name calling. She could have accidentally forwarded a top secret email to her bowling club mailing list and I still wouldn't think she was less qualified. It's just irrelevant in the bigger picture. I think Trump is not qualified at all and I don't think he will do a better job. The president is not a dictator and they can't bs or bully their way into getting changes made. If he can manage to accomplish anything he says, which I doubt he can, it will end up making life worse for a lot of people. I get his rhetoric, the government isn't perfect and some things aren't working well, but he's not going to be able to fix any of it. He's just pointing fingers at red herrings to get people to back him.
  - hga 10y ago
    OK, so she messed up with some emails. No, against all advice with anyone with a clue about security, and the law, she set up her own private email server and transacted all her email State Department business on it, including the transmission of HIGHLY classified information. Every bit of what I said in the above paragraph is a matter of public record. That's still not enough to make me want to vote for a pushy business guy whose platform consists of impossible claims and juvenile name calling. Not germane to my comments, unless you want to widen the scope of our discussion. Me, I'll just note that Trump doesn't palpably want to start a shooting war with Russia, and in general, Hillary's warmongering (e.g. "We can, we saw, he died"; you do know we're fighting 5 undeclared wars right now?) and her general way of "doing business" that goes all the way back to her first real job, a stint on the Watergate Investigating Committee, from which she was terminated with extreme prejudice, which along with failing the D.C. Bar exam forced her to accept Bill's outstanding offer of marriage and exile herself to 1970's Arkansas, makes her an existential risk to the United States if she becomes President. Foreign policy is, by law going back to the Constitution, largely the remit of the President, so it's an area where it doesn't matter that "The president is not a dictator and they can't bs or bully their way into getting changes made.", the Commander in Chief can most certainly get an earnest shooting war started (I've in fact gotten into arguments about whether the replacement for the SAC could legally and in practice refuse to her resorting to the nuclear football). And as the email server debacle shows, Hillary is not one to worry about long term consequences. You do own a paper copy of Nuclear War Survival Skills, I assume? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_War_Survival_Skills https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_War_Survival_Skills you need a paper copy to get the dimensions of the Kearny Fallout Meter correct.)

hga 10y ago

Getting off topic, but "lowest level classified document was sent to an unsecured email account" does not describe the NSA TS/SCI/SAP GAMMA material a no longer cleared Sidney Blumenthal sent out. I suppose there are higher level classified materials like nuclear weapons designs (check out the DoE Q clearance), but GAMMA is already stratospheric and the compromise of it is in the "can get people killed in real time" variety. If you haven't read about this, you need to expand your sources of information. I've also read, without sufficient verification, that the names of 4 CIA agents were burned, and in general it's clear it's a counter-intelligence nightmare of catastrophic and unprecedented proportions. ADDED: Getting back to the email in question (which I found in full at https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/36617 https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/36617) there's no way of telling if anything nefarious was implied, it's all the way back to mid-2014, so unless the structure was set up so illegal coordination would be required, and which sort of structure was to be set up was in the air, it's unlikely illegal "illegit" was implicated. More likely Schmidt was generally ignorant of the details of these sorts of things and wanted to make sure the structure would be set up so nothing like that would come into play. And we haven't heard of anything like it with whatever his org eventually became, but it's something to be careful about, as the Project Veritas sting videos demonstrate.

bobsgame 10y ago
OK, so she messed up with some emails. That's still not enough to make me want to vote for a pushy business guy whose platform consists of impossible claims and juvenile name calling. She could have accidentally forwarded a top secret email to her bowling club mailing list and I still wouldn't think she was less qualified. It's just irrelevant in the bigger picture. I think Trump is not qualified at all and I don't think he will do a better job. The president is not a dictator and they can't bs or bully their way into getting changes made. If he can manage to accomplish anything he says, which I doubt he can, it will end up making life worse for a lot of people. I get his rhetoric, the government isn't perfect and some things aren't working well, but he's not going to be able to fix any of it. He's just pointing fingers at red herrings to get people to back him.
- hga 10y ago
  OK, so she messed up with some emails. No, against all advice with anyone with a clue about security, and the law, she set up her own private email server and transacted all her email State Department business on it, including the transmission of HIGHLY classified information. Every bit of what I said in the above paragraph is a matter of public record. That's still not enough to make me want to vote for a pushy business guy whose platform consists of impossible claims and juvenile name calling. Not germane to my comments, unless you want to widen the scope of our discussion. Me, I'll just note that Trump doesn't palpably want to start a shooting war with Russia, and in general, Hillary's warmongering (e.g. "We can, we saw, he died"; you do know we're fighting 5 undeclared wars right now?) and her general way of "doing business" that goes all the way back to her first real job, a stint on the Watergate Investigating Committee, from which she was terminated with extreme prejudice, which along with failing the D.C. Bar exam forced her to accept Bill's outstanding offer of marriage and exile herself to 1970's Arkansas, makes her an existential risk to the United States if she becomes President. Foreign policy is, by law going back to the Constitution, largely the remit of the President, so it's an area where it doesn't matter that "The president is not a dictator and they can't bs or bully their way into getting changes made.", the Commander in Chief can most certainly get an earnest shooting war started (I've in fact gotten into arguments about whether the replacement for the SAC could legally and in practice refuse to her resorting to the nuclear football). And as the email server debacle shows, Hillary is not one to worry about long term consequences. You do own a paper copy of Nuclear War Survival Skills, I assume? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_War_Survival_Skills https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_War_Survival_Skills you need a paper copy to get the dimensions of the Kearny Fallout Meter correct.)