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I wonder how much propaganda do we read every day ? Tip: A lot. I think that almost every piece of information which is not pure art or mathematical formulas

I wonder how much propaganda do we read every day ? Tip: A lot. I think that almost every piece of information which is not pure art or mathematical formulas - is some sort of propaganda.. Meaning someone somewhere is pushing his own agenda, directly or indirectly. It is strategically wise for Apple competitors to put out all kinds of negative articles right now. Apple does something unpopular - use that as a lever to swing the opinion - that's when some customers fall into your own nets. After all, competition is not messiah - they desperately want to push their own products and inflict as much damage as possible to the top dog, which happens to be Apple right now.. I don't know about this particular article, but I'm just saying - I've seen so much negativity and wining about the MacBook Pros - that the "pro" people are left behind, there's no ESC key and so on - I'm really curious to actually try it for myself.. What if I like it ? Is that a strategy too ? I find it harder and harder to believe anything on the Internet now, because it's all twisted and bended and distorted.. It's a war out there and the battlefield is our minds.

kaielvin 10y ago
Isn't it was business and politics have always been about ?
- delegate 10y ago
  Of course they have ! The difference is that now we have all this technological means to spread the messages faster and to an wider audience.
dstryr 10y ago
I agree with you that we are constantly bombarded with propaganda, but a lot of the backlash is coming from long-time Apple users such as myself, who feel that Apple is no longer making computers for us. And you know what? That's perfectly fine, they're a business and are catering to the high end where the margins are best. The proof is littered all over HN and Reddit where blog posts all begin with the same defense, "I"ve been using Macs since... and have bought Apple since this, this and this." Personally, I wish there were a company selling a generic looking, uni-body notebook, similar in aesthetic and price to the new Xiaomi laptop. If some company could optimize hardware like that specifically for Linux, from the ground up, then maybe I could ditch this aging mid-2011 Macbook Air running Linux.
- delegate 10y ago
  I've also been using Apple computers since Apple II. I've had every Apple PC, iPod and iPhone and I've been a loyal fan and loved it. But these are just words. Actually, I just lied, but you would have probably believed me, because, why would I lie in a comment ? Well, why not ? :) I got my first ever Mac in 2008 and I've only owned an iPhone 5 and 6. So truth and falsehood on the internet is very cheap - it costs nothing to write something outrageous - and people would probably not even notice it. Being paid to write a lie ? Easy money... But I totally agree on the need for an open source alternative to Apple. I'd also like to see an open source version of UIKit.. With Swift being open source, I think people are already working on it. You'll have an army of iOS devs ready to build cool Linux applications in their favourite language, using familiar UI concepts. I'd love to get involved into something like this ;).
  - intended 10y ago
    You can compare previous product launch discussions on reddit/hn yourself and gauge the feelings at the time. Furthermore, you can see the products yourself and decide what is a major improvement for yourself - without needing to relate to what someone says on an article. It bears to remember that this is microsoft, the company which until 2012, had no hardware product of its own. I use a surface today, and the new studio which was launched is a poor product because of its graphics card which is substandard compared to whats on the market now. But its still a significant step ahead, and all these changes are happening along side getting one core together. The braver company today is Msft.
- Lio 10y ago
  I agree in that I wish there were better generic Linux laptop alternatives to Apple but I find something very distasteful about a company like Xiaomi. They're not quite passing off their goods as Apple's but they're not far off it. Apple's current vision might not be my current vision but at least it's authentically theirs.
  - dstryr 10y ago
    I agree with this as well and regret having bought a Xiaomi phone despite its great value. This is the reason I will not be purchasing this laptop.

kaielvin 10y ago

Isn't it was business and politics have always been about ?

delegate 10y ago
Of course they have ! The difference is that now we have all this technological means to spread the messages faster and to an wider audience.

dstryr 10y ago

I agree with you that we are constantly bombarded with propaganda, but a lot of the backlash is coming from long-time Apple users such as myself, who feel that Apple is no longer making computers for us. And you know what? That's perfectly fine, they're a business and are catering to the high end where the margins are best. The proof is littered all over HN and Reddit where blog posts all begin with the same defense, "I"ve been using Macs since... and have bought Apple since this, this and this." Personally, I wish there were a company selling a generic looking, uni-body notebook, similar in aesthetic and price to the new Xiaomi laptop. If some company could optimize hardware like that specifically for Linux, from the ground up, then maybe I could ditch this aging mid-2011 Macbook Air running Linux.

delegate 10y ago
I've also been using Apple computers since Apple II. I've had every Apple PC, iPod and iPhone and I've been a loyal fan and loved it. But these are just words. Actually, I just lied, but you would have probably believed me, because, why would I lie in a comment ? Well, why not ? :) I got my first ever Mac in 2008 and I've only owned an iPhone 5 and 6. So truth and falsehood on the internet is very cheap - it costs nothing to write something outrageous - and people would probably not even notice it. Being paid to write a lie ? Easy money... But I totally agree on the need for an open source alternative to Apple. I'd also like to see an open source version of UIKit.. With Swift being open source, I think people are already working on it. You'll have an army of iOS devs ready to build cool Linux applications in their favourite language, using familiar UI concepts. I'd love to get involved into something like this ;).
- intended 10y ago
  You can compare previous product launch discussions on reddit/hn yourself and gauge the feelings at the time. Furthermore, you can see the products yourself and decide what is a major improvement for yourself - without needing to relate to what someone says on an article. It bears to remember that this is microsoft, the company which until 2012, had no hardware product of its own. I use a surface today, and the new studio which was launched is a poor product because of its graphics card which is substandard compared to whats on the market now. But its still a significant step ahead, and all these changes are happening along side getting one core together. The braver company today is Msft.
Lio 10y ago
I agree in that I wish there were better generic Linux laptop alternatives to Apple but I find something very distasteful about a company like Xiaomi. They're not quite passing off their goods as Apple's but they're not far off it. Apple's current vision might not be my current vision but at least it's authentically theirs.
- dstryr 10y ago
  I agree with this as well and regret having bought a Xiaomi phone despite its great value. This is the reason I will not be purchasing this laptop.