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I asked the same question and read replies to others. Just a quick summary; - Lenovo has decent laptops. Personally, I'd not touch anything from Lenovo after t

by eknkc 10y ago

I asked the same question and read replies to others. Just a quick summary; - Lenovo has decent laptops. Personally, I'd not touch anything from Lenovo after their shady stuff. (Maybe not an issue on Linux, maybe it is. I don't trust them) - Dell XPS series are really good but people complain about coil whine, worse battery life compared to MBP and hit/miss trackpad. It might not be that big of a problem. And if you are running in clamshell mode, these are generally no issues. I don't run clamshell though. - The Razer Blade stuff seems to be great too. They are mostly aimed for gamers but look decent. Someone mentioned about huge display bezels being really huge in person. Gotta see. I can't find any info about them here, maybe they only sell in USA. - I skipped Asus due to past support experiences with them. Also some smaller vendors due to possible support issues I'd have especially since I'm out of US.

AsyncAwait 10y ago
If you don't mind Linux, https://system76.com/laptops https://system76.com/laptops has some great machines - the Oryx Pro is a pretty slim, aluminium laptop with much more performance per buck than the MBP.
- dom0 10y ago
  PC Specialist, Schenker and Tuxedo sell machines based on the same barebones. These are probably cheaper for !US people.
  - AsyncAwait 10y ago
    Yeah, in the UK I'd go with SCAN Computers[1] or PC Specialist[2] (SCAN I can personally recommend). [1] - https://www.scan.co.uk/3xs/custom https://www.scan.co.uk/3xs/custom [2] - https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/laptops/ https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/laptops/
- tmikaeld 10y ago
  500 internal error, seems the server couldn't handle hackernews
  - AsyncAwait 10y ago
    > seems the server couldn't handle hackernews Who can? :-) It seems to be back now BTW.
pritambaral 10y ago
Important corrections: - Lenovo's ThinkPad line has decent laptops. Lenovo's more popular line, Ideapad, which are branded just "Lenovo", are terrible. - Dell XPS series are good, but if you're looking to run Linux on them, make sure to get the Developer Editions
- y7 10y ago
  Can you elaborate? Why are the Ideapads terrible? Why get a Developer Edition?
  - ahakki 10y ago
    iirc the developer edition uses some components from other manufacturers than the standard edition. This is because of driver issues on linux.
  - kyriakos 10y ago
    not terrible, just thinkpads are built for professionals and can generally take more punishment before they break. I'd assume they also use better compoenents.
  - Arnt 10y ago
    The thinkpads have a long, long history of working well with linux and bsd, too long for it to be a coincidence. The ideapads... don't. "Developer Edition" is Dell's corporatespeak for "we made sure this works with linux".
    - dom0 10y ago
      With IdeaPads it's just totally model dependent. Some models work great with Linux, some don't work at all.
      - Arnt 10y ago
        I really wish I could find anything at all that works well with linux, has at least 4G RAM (better 8 or 16), doesn't have a heavy screen , and is no wider than 28cm. Buying laptops has become really, really difficult. </digression>
mmusc 10y ago
razor sells in the uk and other markets too www.razerzone.com but they cost an arm and a leg
kyriakos 10y ago
some of the Asus machines are pretty good - I had good experiences with a non-ultrabook laptop for the past 5 years. most of the issues I read about with Asus is regarding the build quality of their ultrabooks (the hinge in particular) and screen issues (yellow cast on some models). Other than that, all Asus stuff I used are good quality and at least my local support is good.
Jayakumark 10y ago
Was waiting more than an 4 years for replacing MacBook Pro 2012 which is the last MBP you can upgrade on your own. and finally after seeing the event - went with dell outlet new latitude E5470 with Core i7 6820HQ the same processor used in 15" MBP version selling at $2399 . It has 8gb Ram and SSD for $635. Will add additional 8gb for $40, will receive it tomorrow . I probably would never buy MBP again since there is no bang for buck . would be happy to pay twice the premium for apple but 4 times forget it. They are selling ultra books as pro's for premium . It's more like cheating and milking customers than providing value.
- bosie 10y ago
  do you mind providing a link? I can only find the E5470 with 8GB but not 16GB
  - Jayakumark 10y ago
    Looks like 16gb is out of stock i dont see it too, you can buy another 8gb one and upgrade to 16gb for $40 from newegg.

by eknkc 10y ago

AsyncAwait 10y ago

If you don't mind Linux, https://system76.com/laptops https://system76.com/laptops has some great machines - the Oryx Pro is a pretty slim, aluminium laptop with much more performance per buck than the MBP.

dom0 10y ago
PC Specialist, Schenker and Tuxedo sell machines based on the same barebones. These are probably cheaper for !US people.
- AsyncAwait 10y ago
  Yeah, in the UK I'd go with SCAN Computers[1] or PC Specialist[2] (SCAN I can personally recommend). [1] - https://www.scan.co.uk/3xs/custom https://www.scan.co.uk/3xs/custom [2] - https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/laptops/ https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/laptops/
tmikaeld 10y ago
500 internal error, seems the server couldn't handle hackernews
- AsyncAwait 10y ago
  > seems the server couldn't handle hackernews Who can? :-) It seems to be back now BTW.

pritambaral 10y ago

Important corrections: - Lenovo's ThinkPad line has decent laptops. Lenovo's more popular line, Ideapad, which are branded just "Lenovo", are terrible. - Dell XPS series are good, but if you're looking to run Linux on them, make sure to get the Developer Editions

y7 10y ago
Can you elaborate? Why are the Ideapads terrible? Why get a Developer Edition?
- ahakki 10y ago
  iirc the developer edition uses some components from other manufacturers than the standard edition. This is because of driver issues on linux.
- kyriakos 10y ago
  not terrible, just thinkpads are built for professionals and can generally take more punishment before they break. I'd assume they also use better compoenents.
- Arnt 10y ago
  The thinkpads have a long, long history of working well with linux and bsd, too long for it to be a coincidence. The ideapads... don't. "Developer Edition" is Dell's corporatespeak for "we made sure this works with linux".
  - dom0 10y ago
    With IdeaPads it's just totally model dependent. Some models work great with Linux, some don't work at all.
    - Arnt 10y ago
      I really wish I could find anything at all that works well with linux, has at least 4G RAM (better 8 or 16), doesn't have a heavy screen , and is no wider than 28cm. Buying laptops has become really, really difficult. </digression>

mmusc 10y ago

razor sells in the uk and other markets too www.razerzone.com but they cost an arm and a leg

kyriakos 10y ago

some of the Asus machines are pretty good - I had good experiences with a non-ultrabook laptop for the past 5 years. most of the issues I read about with Asus is regarding the build quality of their ultrabooks (the hinge in particular) and screen issues (yellow cast on some models). Other than that, all Asus stuff I used are good quality and at least my local support is good.

Jayakumark 10y ago

Was waiting more than an 4 years for replacing MacBook Pro 2012 which is the last MBP you can upgrade on your own. and finally after seeing the event - went with dell outlet new latitude E5470 with Core i7 6820HQ the same processor used in 15" MBP version selling at $2399 . It has 8gb Ram and SSD for $635. Will add additional 8gb for $40, will receive it tomorrow . I probably would never buy MBP again since there is no bang for buck . would be happy to pay twice the premium for apple but 4 times forget it. They are selling ultra books as pro's for premium . It's more like cheating and milking customers than providing value.

bosie 10y ago
do you mind providing a link? I can only find the E5470 with 8GB but not 16GB
- Jayakumark 10y ago
  Looks like 16gb is out of stock i dont see it too, you can buy another 8gb one and upgrade to 16gb for $40 from newegg.