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>models now are 16gb of ram only Do you have a use for more than 16gb? Serious question.

chrisfosterelli 10y ago
I'm often noticing a ton of swapping going on, causing serious system-wide lag, when I have a few dozen Chrome tabs and two VM's running in addition to a few other standard programs which use a lot of memory (Slack). It's not hard to rub up against 16GB in a standard developer workflow.
- jen20 10y ago
  Glad to know it's not just me that sees performance and memory issues with Slack...
- jonlorusso 10y ago
  > a few dozen Chrome tabs There's your problem.
  - newscracker 10y ago
    I agree. Chrome is a big bloat on Windows and OS X/macOS. I find Safari to be quite lean (memory and energy consumption) on OS X/macOS. I miss that Firefox is not keeping up since it's the most flexible browser for my use.
  - mickronome 10y ago
    No not really, while Chrome certainly isn't perfect it's usually using less than 10% of my memory. I don't think the objections would go away if it supported 17GB, or even 18GB.
- deleted 10y ago
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sudobear 10y ago
Running multiple VMs
- snoman 10y ago
  Shit... Just one will start to put strain on the system. If I'm developing an iOS/Android frontend in osx with Xamarin Studio and an asp.net backend with Visual Studio, then 16gb just won't do.
  - rimantas 10y ago
    Not sure about Xamarin studio, but for Xcode, AppCode, PHPStorm anr Virtualbox 16GB still does do.
santaclaus 10y ago
Multi-threaded builds of C++ codebases that make gratuitous use of template meta programming.
- mrich 10y ago
  You should offload the build to a compile cluster. Especially if there are multiple developers doing this it will be worth setting it up.
  - RotsiserMho 10y ago
    How does one do this for XCode builds? Especially with the sad state of the Mac Mini.
flukus 10y ago
There are legitimate reasons to need that much RAM. What I don't see people doing though, is asking if they are using the correct tool (laptop) for the job (video editing, data processing, compiling, etc).
- eropple 10y ago
  If your workflow is Mac-oriented, buying a trashcan Mac Pro right now is really expensive for pretty outdated hardware. MBPs are pretty much the only game in town.
  - flukus 10y ago
    There is also desktops and servers, both of which may be much better for rendering, running VMs, etc.
    - eropple 10y ago
      There is no serious Mac desktop except for the stunningly overpriced Mac Pro. There is no serious Mac server, period.
      - flukus 10y ago
        If your in the apple ecosystem then you aren't worried about over priced products.
        eropple 10y ago
        This is...objectively wrong? The "Apple Tax" hasn't, up until the current generation and maybe (depending on your metrics) the prior one, been a serious thing for a decade. They've consistently released price-competitive systems that come with what's probably the best multi-purpose desktop OS on the planet. Don't do the middlebrow thing. It never works.
  - initram 10y ago
    If you're doing video editing with FCPX and/or Motion, those dual GPUs in the MacPro help a lot!
mitchty 10y ago
Yes, here is my system right now. http://imgur.com/a/Zj2wK http://imgur.com/a/Zj2wK
toyg 10y ago
Workload expands to use all available resources. 640kb etc etc etc...

I'm often noticing a ton of swapping going on, causing serious system-wide lag, when I have a few dozen Chrome tabs and two VM's running in addition to a few other standard programs which use a lot of memory (Slack). It's not hard to rub up against 16GB in a standard developer workflow.

jen20 10y ago
Glad to know it's not just me that sees performance and memory issues with Slack...
jonlorusso 10y ago
> a few dozen Chrome tabs There's your problem.
- newscracker 10y ago
  I agree. Chrome is a big bloat on Windows and OS X/macOS. I find Safari to be quite lean (memory and energy consumption) on OS X/macOS. I miss that Firefox is not keeping up since it's the most flexible browser for my use.
- mickronome 10y ago
  No not really, while Chrome certainly isn't perfect it's usually using less than 10% of my memory. I don't think the objections would go away if it supported 17GB, or even 18GB.
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sudobear 10y ago

Running multiple VMs

snoman 10y ago
Shit... Just one will start to put strain on the system. If I'm developing an iOS/Android frontend in osx with Xamarin Studio and an asp.net backend with Visual Studio, then 16gb just won't do.
- rimantas 10y ago
  Not sure about Xamarin studio, but for Xcode, AppCode, PHPStorm anr Virtualbox 16GB still does do.

santaclaus 10y ago

Multi-threaded builds of C++ codebases that make gratuitous use of template meta programming.

mrich 10y ago
You should offload the build to a compile cluster. Especially if there are multiple developers doing this it will be worth setting it up.
- RotsiserMho 10y ago
  How does one do this for XCode builds? Especially with the sad state of the Mac Mini.

flukus 10y ago

There are legitimate reasons to need that much RAM. What I don't see people doing though, is asking if they are using the correct tool (laptop) for the job (video editing, data processing, compiling, etc).

eropple 10y ago
If your workflow is Mac-oriented, buying a trashcan Mac Pro right now is really expensive for pretty outdated hardware. MBPs are pretty much the only game in town.
- flukus 10y ago
  There is also desktops and servers, both of which may be much better for rendering, running VMs, etc.
  - eropple 10y ago
    There is no serious Mac desktop except for the stunningly overpriced Mac Pro. There is no serious Mac server, period.
    - flukus 10y ago
      If your in the apple ecosystem then you aren't worried about over priced products.
      - eropple 10y ago
        This is...objectively wrong? The "Apple Tax" hasn't, up until the current generation and maybe (depending on your metrics) the prior one, been a serious thing for a decade. They've consistently released price-competitive systems that come with what's probably the best multi-purpose desktop OS on the planet. Don't do the middlebrow thing. It never works.
- initram 10y ago
  If you're doing video editing with FCPX and/or Motion, those dual GPUs in the MacPro help a lot!

mitchty 10y ago

Yes, here is my system right now. http://imgur.com/a/Zj2wK http://imgur.com/a/Zj2wK

toyg 10y ago

Workload expands to use all available resources. 640kb etc etc etc...