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I agree with your question: "do we have a moral obligation to make housing as accessible as it could be for the largest number of people?" I say the answer to
by cbanek 10y ago
I agree with your question: "do we have a moral obligation to make housing as accessible as it could be for the largest number of people?"
I say the answer to that is yes. But if you make the question specific to a particular area, my answer would be no. Just about anywhere in the US is cheaper to house people than SF (other than NYC). It'd also probably be better for the economy to develop other urban and even suburban areas, because there would be more jobs related to people living in those areas (think cashiers, gas stations, places to eat, etc.)
While some places are hard to live, because there's no water, no medical services, etc, there's a lot of places to go live.
The big question now is about jobs. There's a lot of jobs in SF, and not a lot of jobs in small affordable towns, and people need jobs. But I think that's a self fulfilling cycle, in that tech jobs can really happen anywhere. You don't need a railroad, or factory, or have a port.
Overall I feel like people in SF are complaining that they can't afford to live in SF. Not where they are standing, or in a great neighborhood, but they want to live in SF. And most of them are blaming the tech companies completely.
I'm also not sure what system is helping or hurting people here. It seems to be simple economics. And while I'm all about helping people, knowing some of the ways people get around rent control in both SF and NYC, you're really fighting the clock to get things back to a normal equilibrium.
I'm all about people demanding things get better, but it just seems like people are angry that things suck, and while there are things that we can do (both people and government), nobody is budging.
- pmoriarty 10y ago"The big question now is about jobs. There's a lot of jobs in SF, and not a lot of jobs in small affordable towns, and people need jobs." This is ameliorated to some extent by the increased feasibility of telecommuting. If you can telecommute, then you can work from almost anywhere. Unfortunately, there are still prices to pay for telecommuting, even if your workplace allows it. It's not for everyone. I have a friend who did it for a long time, and they got regularly passed over for promotions vs people who worked in the home office, but they got to live in a much more beautiful and much cheaper place than SF. Some people can't concentrate when they work from home. Some miss having coworkers they can socialize with in-person, and so on. But if you can swing working remotely, and don't mind the downsides, then it can be a much saner and more affordable way to go.
- cbanek 10y agoI completely agree with you on this one. Telecommuting can change everything, because suddenly a town with no outside basis of jobs could support a community and have a tax base. (Also, some people work better remotely, away from politics and open office nonsense)
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