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I bought a 2015 MBP back in January, so I'm all set for a few years at least. Whether OSX goes down the pan even more, I don't know. Moving to Linux seems like

I bought a 2015 MBP back in January, so I'm all set for a few years at least. Whether OSX goes down the pan even more, I don't know. Moving to Linux seems like a romantic idea, but I can forsee there being a number of problems that would make it unfeasible for me 1. I use 1Password, no Linux client 2. Spotify client is no longer being developed for Linux 3. YouNeedABudget software is not Linux compatible - I have 2+ years of financial transactions in there... 4. Google Drive, no (official) Linux client 5. I have a number of Alfred workflows, and enjoy using Alfred in general. Yes, there are a number of open source alternatives, but I've built up enough inertia on OSX it's going to be very difficult for me to switch. There are things about OSX that couldn't care less about like iTunes, Apple Maps etc, but overall it's not so bad

tylerflick 10y ago
I can't testify to the rest of your issues, but the Windows client of 1Password runs reasonably well under Wine.
- jkelsey 10y ago
  But does it integrate well with Firefox or Chrome on Linux?
  - tylerflick 10y ago
    Honestly I haven't tried to set that up yet, I just assumed it wouldn't.
    - LukasSkywalker 10y ago
      It does actually. You have to disable web browser code signature checking and start some program (Agile1pAgent.exe iirc) which then runs in the background. Full instructions: http://eduardosanchez.me/2015/01/25/1password-on-ubuntu-linux-14-10/ http://eduardosanchez.me/2015/01/25/1password-on-ubuntu-linu...
      - jkelsey 10y ago
        Wow. I expected otherwise, but am glad to be shown wrong.
pritambaral 10y ago
> 2. Spotify client is no longer being developed for Linux As a consolation, I'm aware of a number of music clients on Linux that can stream from Spotify via their API. Ad-supported accounts don't have access to the API, of course.
- kingosticks 10y ago
  These rely on libspotify which Spotify have not updated for years. Sadly they recently also removed the download links from their site. The new Linux SDK has been promised for a couple of years now but nothing has emerged. The future for Spotify on Linux looks bleak. https://developer.spotify.com/technologies/libspotify/#libspotify-and-cocoalibspotify-downloads https://developer.spotify.com/technologies/libspotify/#libsp...
  - angry-hacker 10y ago
    What's wrong with the browser version?
    - pritambaral 10y ago
      No MPRIS (media keys, media info display), no local caching, poorer power usage (browser vs native)
      - endisukaj 10y ago
        AFAIK the Linux client is just an Electron app, so that last point would pretty much be the same for the browser client and the "native" client.
- AsyncAwait 10y ago
  There's [1] if you don't mind Google Music. [1] - https://www.googleplaymusicdesktopplayer.com https://www.googleplaymusicdesktopplayer.com
jmiserez 10y ago
1. 1Password apparently works fine with WINE, but I haven't used it myself. 2. Spotify will still receive updates for Linux, they just don't have a dedicated Linux developer on it anymore. On my machine it still works fine. 3. I prefer GoodBudget, which IMHO is much better than YNAB, especially when it comes to their iOS/Android apps. The desktop client just runs in the browser. Also, I've heard YNAB will be discontinuing their desktop apps? 4. There's https://github.com/odeke-em/drive https://github.com/odeke-em/drive, a fork of the official drive client, and it's still being actively developed. 5. Haven't used Alfred, but you can get some of it's features using other tools, e.g. indexed search using Tracker, clipboard history using Diodon, and perhaps some other things. However you are right that you can't get the kind of polished automation Alfred seems to provide. Rather, you'll have to write shell scripts and use the commandline tools to get what you want. Absolutely everything is possible, but it'll feel a bit like using lots of duct tape at first. Note: I'm not saying you should switch right away (1). But I used Linux (Ubuntu) full-time for work and at home for the last 5 years and I was able to do everything with very few exceptions (2). Most peripherals that I bought just worked out of the box. Going Linux full-time is 100% doable. Also, with so many apps running in the browser (or on Electron) the choice of OS matters less every year. (1) in fact, I'll probably get a Mac myself this year for developing iOS apps. (2) Only exception: Windows VM for Microsoft Word/Excel/Powerpoint & iTunes for iPhone syncing. All other software ran in WINE or had a reasonable Linux alternatives.
- paulannesley 10y ago
  > 1Password apparently works fine with WINE, but I haven't used it myself. I run 1Password in Wine in Docker on my (secondary) linux ThinkPad with Dropbox sync. It works, but it's clunky. Part of that is that I don't like the Windows 1Password application compared to the macOS one, though.
- DeltaWhy 10y ago
  YNAB also works great in WINE. They've gone cloud with the new version, but the old desktop app still works.
Rotareti 10y ago
> 5. I have a number of Alfred workflows, and enjoy using Alfred in general. You may want to check-out Albert. [0] > Yes, there are a number of open source alternatives, but I've built up enough inertia on OSX it's going to be very difficult for me to switch. The longer you work on one platform the more you get locked into it. This may not be a problem for the time you are happy with the platform you are locking into. But keep in mind that you are currently locking into a closed source platform. I migrated from MS to Linux about a year ago after being on Windows for about 2 decades. The burden migrating out of it was heavy. With the upcoming closed source cloud platforms this will get even worse. An open source platform gives you more control and freedom over your workflows and data. IMO this is something which cannot be valued highly enough. [0] https://github.com/ManuelSchneid3r/albert https://github.com/ManuelSchneid3r/albert

tylerflick 10y ago

I can't testify to the rest of your issues, but the Windows client of 1Password runs reasonably well under Wine.

jkelsey 10y ago
But does it integrate well with Firefox or Chrome on Linux?
- tylerflick 10y ago
  Honestly I haven't tried to set that up yet, I just assumed it wouldn't.
  - LukasSkywalker 10y ago
    It does actually. You have to disable web browser code signature checking and start some program (Agile1pAgent.exe iirc) which then runs in the background. Full instructions: http://eduardosanchez.me/2015/01/25/1password-on-ubuntu-linux-14-10/ http://eduardosanchez.me/2015/01/25/1password-on-ubuntu-linu...
    - jkelsey 10y ago
      Wow. I expected otherwise, but am glad to be shown wrong.

pritambaral 10y ago

> 2. Spotify client is no longer being developed for Linux As a consolation, I'm aware of a number of music clients on Linux that can stream from Spotify via their API. Ad-supported accounts don't have access to the API, of course.

kingosticks 10y ago
These rely on libspotify which Spotify have not updated for years. Sadly they recently also removed the download links from their site. The new Linux SDK has been promised for a couple of years now but nothing has emerged. The future for Spotify on Linux looks bleak. https://developer.spotify.com/technologies/libspotify/#libspotify-and-cocoalibspotify-downloads https://developer.spotify.com/technologies/libspotify/#libsp...
- angry-hacker 10y ago
  What's wrong with the browser version?
  - pritambaral 10y ago
    No MPRIS (media keys, media info display), no local caching, poorer power usage (browser vs native)
    - endisukaj 10y ago
      AFAIK the Linux client is just an Electron app, so that last point would pretty much be the same for the browser client and the "native" client.
AsyncAwait 10y ago
There's [1] if you don't mind Google Music. [1] - https://www.googleplaymusicdesktopplayer.com https://www.googleplaymusicdesktopplayer.com

jmiserez 10y ago

1. 1Password apparently works fine with WINE, but I haven't used it myself. 2. Spotify will still receive updates for Linux, they just don't have a dedicated Linux developer on it anymore. On my machine it still works fine. 3. I prefer GoodBudget, which IMHO is much better than YNAB, especially when it comes to their iOS/Android apps. The desktop client just runs in the browser. Also, I've heard YNAB will be discontinuing their desktop apps? 4. There's https://github.com/odeke-em/drive https://github.com/odeke-em/drive, a fork of the official drive client, and it's still being actively developed. 5. Haven't used Alfred, but you can get some of it's features using other tools, e.g. indexed search using Tracker, clipboard history using Diodon, and perhaps some other things. However you are right that you can't get the kind of polished automation Alfred seems to provide. Rather, you'll have to write shell scripts and use the commandline tools to get what you want. Absolutely everything is possible, but it'll feel a bit like using lots of duct tape at first. Note: I'm not saying you should switch right away (1). But I used Linux (Ubuntu) full-time for work and at home for the last 5 years and I was able to do everything with very few exceptions (2). Most peripherals that I bought just worked out of the box. Going Linux full-time is 100% doable. Also, with so many apps running in the browser (or on Electron) the choice of OS matters less every year. (1) in fact, I'll probably get a Mac myself this year for developing iOS apps. (2) Only exception: Windows VM for Microsoft Word/Excel/Powerpoint & iTunes for iPhone syncing. All other software ran in WINE or had a reasonable Linux alternatives.

paulannesley 10y ago
> 1Password apparently works fine with WINE, but I haven't used it myself. I run 1Password in Wine in Docker on my (secondary) linux ThinkPad with Dropbox sync. It works, but it's clunky. Part of that is that I don't like the Windows 1Password application compared to the macOS one, though.
DeltaWhy 10y ago
YNAB also works great in WINE. They've gone cloud with the new version, but the old desktop app still works.

Rotareti 10y ago

> 5. I have a number of Alfred workflows, and enjoy using Alfred in general. You may want to check-out Albert. [0] > Yes, there are a number of open source alternatives, but I've built up enough inertia on OSX it's going to be very difficult for me to switch. The longer you work on one platform the more you get locked into it. This may not be a problem for the time you are happy with the platform you are locking into. But keep in mind that you are currently locking into a closed source platform. I migrated from MS to Linux about a year ago after being on Windows for about 2 decades. The burden migrating out of it was heavy. With the upcoming closed source cloud platforms this will get even worse. An open source platform gives you more control and freedom over your workflows and data. IMO this is something which cannot be valued highly enough. [0] https://github.com/ManuelSchneid3r/albert https://github.com/ManuelSchneid3r/albert