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I totally agree with this article. I have a MacBook Pro circa 2015, and it's awesome. I haven't touched the new machines, but they aren't inspiring, though the

I totally agree with this article. I have a MacBook Pro circa 2015, and it's awesome. I haven't touched the new machines, but they aren't inspiring, though the black option is really nice to see :) I haven't touched the keyboard, which it sounds like they changed. I really like the one on the generation I have, and I also like the wireless model that Apple came out with. Anyone know if it matches the wireless keyboard? Cause I like that one, short throw and large quiet key movement. In terms of the touch bar, eh, I really like the idea of having thumbprint access to the computer. I hope this is accessible to other applications. As a developer I'm minorly annoyed at losing function keys for certain tasks, but maybe I can utilize it to create custom keys and icons in different contexts, which could be really cool. Otherwise, while it doesn't offend me, it's definitely not worth upgrading to. But IMO, like this article, it's still the best Unix OS based laptop on the market (yes I know it's XNU, but it's 100% posix and full BSD subsystem, which is better than windows' posix mode and Linux veneer). Anyway, while it isn't better than my current machine, it is thinner and lighter which are nice haves, and I might actually like the new keyboard.

sotojuan 10y ago
Hope my 2015 Macbook lives forever D:
extra88 10y ago
I briefly tried the keyboard on a 2016 12-inch MacBook in an Apple Store and didn't like how "shallow" it felt relative to other Apple keyboards I've used. I hope the 2016 MBP's keyboard isn't like the 12-inch MacBook but it's not a deal-breaker. I'm not excited by the Touch Bar but I'm not concerned about it either. I think it will take some time to see how useful it is and how committed Apple is to it (e.g. will it appear on a keyboard peripheral soon). You don't lose function keys entirely, you can always call them up by pressing in the fn key. The Touch ID is available to developers, 1Password will support using it to unlock a vault instead of entering your Master password, same as they do in their iOS app. I don't care about them being thinner but appreciate them being half a pound lighter. The was achieved, in part, by having a smaller battery, 24% smaller in the 15-inch model, but they claim the 2016 model can get 10 hours of use, vs. 9 hours with the Mid 2015 model.
- Russell91 10y ago
  The 2016 Macbook Pro uses the "shallow" keyboard.

sotojuan 10y ago

Hope my 2015 Macbook lives forever D:

extra88 10y ago

I briefly tried the keyboard on a 2016 12-inch MacBook in an Apple Store and didn't like how "shallow" it felt relative to other Apple keyboards I've used. I hope the 2016 MBP's keyboard isn't like the 12-inch MacBook but it's not a deal-breaker. I'm not excited by the Touch Bar but I'm not concerned about it either. I think it will take some time to see how useful it is and how committed Apple is to it (e.g. will it appear on a keyboard peripheral soon). You don't lose function keys entirely, you can always call them up by pressing in the fn key. The Touch ID is available to developers, 1Password will support using it to unlock a vault instead of entering your Master password, same as they do in their iOS app. I don't care about them being thinner but appreciate them being half a pound lighter. The was achieved, in part, by having a smaller battery, 24% smaller in the 15-inch model, but they claim the 2016 model can get 10 hours of use, vs. 9 hours with the Mid 2015 model.

Russell91 10y ago
The 2016 Macbook Pro uses the "shallow" keyboard.