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Apple Says Goodbye to the Startup Chime with the New MacBook Pro
- eknkc 10y agoGood. Article doesn't seem to load for me but it served nearly no purpose but a nostalgic one. Maybe someone somewhere debugged a hardware problem with it? Have no idea. Given that the touch bar has it's own hardware and software, it can serve as a better hardware debugging tool anyway.
- shurcooL 10y agoAgreed. I wish it also didn't have the "MacBook Pro" text on the bezel of the screen. It serves no useful purpose of making the laptop better, but it can be slightly distracting from the work you're doing on screen, just because it's always in your field of view. There's already an Apple logo on the back of the screen, which is perfect. Why the need to bring back this text? iMac doesn't say iMac on the bezel...
- selectodude 10y agohttps://regmedia.co.uk/2010/11/24/imac_three_quarter_large.jpg https://regmedia.co.uk/2010/11/24/imac_three_quarter_large.j... It used to :)
- dingaling 10y ago> There's already an Apple logo on the back of the screen, which is perfect. Except for those of us giving presentations to a roomful of glowing Apples wherein it becomes intensely annoying. To the extent that it's difficult not to direct my attention to the Mr Joe Boring with the Anonymous Black Laptop. He's the only one thinking differently... I'm not sure why people voluntarily advertise for the World's most valuable company without any form of compensation and futhermore feel proud to do so.
- evv 10y agoThe logo on the new macbook doesn't glow.
- geophile 10y agoOne more way in which the previous MBP was superior. No "MacBook Pro" on the bezel.
- danudey 10y agoThe chime was useful to know when the computer had finished its test and was about to boot, or rather, to count boot cycles. 'Zapping the PRAM', or, on modern systems, NVRAM, is a useful diagnostic trick and has fixed a lot of problems on a lot of the machines I manage, and for a lot of people I don't. The standard instructions I gave were very easy to follow: 1. Hold down Command-Option-P-R 2. Keep them held down until you hear the chime twice 3. Release as soon as you hear the second chime Done! Simple instructions anyone can follow; grandparents, children, lawyers, whoever. Now that the chime is gone, those instructions are useless, and I'm not sure what instructions I'll be giving people to help them through the process. "Hold it down for thirty seconds" maybe?
- subway 10y ago"Lug it down to the Genius Bar"
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- ben174 10y agoIt's useful to me, to let me know if it's a cold boot or resuming from hibernation. Kinda mentally prepares me so I'm ready to launch some terminals and tmux sessions, connect to VPN, etc.
- charlesism 10y agoI'll definitely miss it. If your Mac won't start, or you have a desktop and the monitor's acting up, it's convenient to have some indication of what's going on. Not that zapping the PRAM often solved anything, but it'll be more difficult now that there's no indication how many times the machine has restarted. But the nostalgia (I'd call it the Pavlov response) is the biggest part. Hearing the chime as I sit down to get some work done is a cozy way to get into the swing.
- carsongross 10y agoIs nostalgia bad?
- psyc 10y agoGood. A loud sound that I can't predict or control is pretty bad. I've tried every command line trick I can find to disable this rudeness. It always randomly re-enables at some point.
- funkydata 10y agoI've tried too. The only thing that works is to turn off sound before shutting down your MacBook.
- dylan604 10y agoI find it odd that people actually shut down their Apple laptops. Apple's sleep/wake (on real Apple hardware) has never let me down. When I'm done with the laptop, I just close the lid. Of course, I require a password on wake. I'm curious if I'm in the minority on this?
- jagger27 10y agoI've rebooted my MacBook maybe 5 times outside of system updates since I got it in 2013. One of those things that "just works".
- quasse 10y agoI need to reboot between OS X for programming and windows for CAD modeling fairly frequently. It can be really annoying if I forget to mute the sound before rebooting in a meeting.
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- smnscu 10y agoI'm in the same boat. You do have to reboot to install system updates though. I've developed a habit of always setting system volume at the minimum (non-zero) possible when plugging in headphones, so that if I need to restart the computer it will make close to no sound at all.
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- cheiVia0 10y agoBlind folks are going to be very annoyed about this.
- bluejekyll 10y agoYeah it would be nice to make this configurable for that reason. But they have this problem with many devices, they get no indication on the iPhone, right?
- jolux 10y agoThe iPhone buzzes when it turns on.
- laurentdc 10y agoGood riddance, along with the even tackier glowing logo.
- andrewpi 10y agoI guess future viewers of Wall-E won't get the joke now. (for those who didn't see the film, the robot main character made the Mac startup chime when he finished charging)
- ommunist 10y agoWell, this is sacrilege, added to the 'ESC' key blasphemy. MBPs could be banned in Ireland, they consider blasphemy the first class crime.
- sxg 10y agoWith macOS Sierra you can natively remap Esc to Caps Lock (or CMD, Alt, Ctrl). I think a lot of people already did this before. I just tried it out yesterday with Vim, and I find it way more convenient than Esc.
- subway 10y agoCouldn't you already do this? I've been off OSX for 5 or 6 years now, but I remember having no issues remapping the Caps Lock key as CTRL/CMD/ALT, and would have sworn ESC was an option.
- a1k0n 10y agoEscape isn't an option. Or at least it wasn't before... There's a third party tool called Karabiner which enables this.
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- scarlac 10y agoI can confirm it's a native option in Sierra. I have not installed Karabiner. Actually, from their website: "Karabiner does not work on macOS Sierra at the moment."
- a1k0n 10y agoSure enough, this is new with Sierra. El Capitan doesn't support it. Finally! I was tired of Seil/Karabiner/whatever else constantly updating itself and changing its name, just so I could remap caps lock to escape.
- molecule 10y agoThis seems to be what I've been using to disable it most recently: sudo nvram SystemAudioVolume=%80 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3208783?start=120&tstart=0 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3208783?start=120&tstar...
- xenobioticants 10y agoHasn't worked since Yosemite.
- jheriko 10y agoi never really enjoyed that noise personally... i could see the nostalgia element, but it always seemed out of place coming out of a modern, slick looking piece of hardware. :)
- ajeet_dhaliwal 10y agoAlong with the glowing logo.
- santaclaus 10y agoThe startup chime doesn't bother me (and I rarely reboot my MacBook Pro, usually only after required security updates). The Finder logo, on the other hand, looks like something one would find in a student union at a small midwestern college that hasn't been updated since 1986, and it is always there, creepily staring me down day after day...
- Osmium 10y ago> The Finder logo, on the other hand, looks like something one would find in a student union at a small midwestern college that hasn't been updated since 1986 I've always loved the Finder logo, each to their own. It was possibly inspired by a slightly better artist than what you suggest :) http://www.cultofmac.com/75608/did-picasso-influence-the-mac-finder-icon/ http://www.cultofmac.com/75608/did-picasso-influence-the-mac...
- IMcD23 10y agoThe Finder logo was updated in Yosemite, IIRC
- wtfishackernews 10y agoA bit off topic, but 99 percent invisible did an interesting episode on sound with a bit about the creation of the apple start-up chime. The relevant part starts at 04:30. http://99percentinvisible.org/episode/the-sizzle/ http://99percentinvisible.org/episode/the-sizzle/
- sigjuice 10y agoIs there a technical reason for this? e.g. maybe they were having issues with audio in the EFI and decided to not bother?