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I dearly wish that Apple would just go back to licensing their OS. I get the feeling, other than portables, they really don't want to make Macintoshes. Heck,

I dearly wish that Apple would just go back to licensing their OS. I get the feeling, other than portables, they really don't want to make Macintoshes. Heck, even a $500[1] package would be fine. Put out a list of acceptable hardware like the old NeXT list[2]. I know they won't, but I still have dreams. I do wonder what was the real story when Steve Jobs made his public comments on clones[3] and what the price was they refused[4]. 1) Lord knows I paid more for NeXTSTEP back in the day. 2) It was kinda fun to call a number and get a fax back with the list of hardware you could buy. 3) https://youtu.be/a3MrpLyUOo8?t=34m41s https://youtu.be/a3MrpLyUOo8?t=34m41s 4) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYLuoahTP_s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYLuoahTP_s

threeseed 10y ago
No Apple will never go back to licensing their OS. It nearly killed them after Power Computing went straight for Apple's profit margins instead of trying to entice new customers to the ecosystem. The fact is that many of the innovations we come to appreciate Apple for come from their ownership of both the hardware and the software.
- protomyth 10y ago
  > The fact is that many of the innovations we come to appreciate Apple for come from their ownership of both the hardware and the software. Since they switched to Intel, what are these innovations that I cannot just buy? I see the new Touch Bar, but even that I can skip[1]. I really wonder what would be different? I doubt they will ever go back, but Apple sure isn't doing a whole lot to satisfy my desktop love. What exactly on the Mac mini and Mac Pro cannot be bought by a third party? 1) The whole idea of something that make me move my eyes to the keyboard is unwelcome.
  - redial 10y ago
    I don't know if you would count this as innovations, but magsafe, the glass trackpad still ahead of anything else and the full unibody enclosure in my mind are clear innovations that made a mac a much better alternative than the competition. I also think they were only possible because people are willing to pay a little more to get macOS, thus allowing Apple a higher price point to develop and include those features.
    - protomyth 10y ago
      Neither of which helps the desktop computers. Hackintoshes aren't all about getting a cheaper computer these days. They are about buying current chips and higher memory. I'm now one of those willing to pay for macOS, but the hardware is a big downside to the OS experience. For example, being limited to 16gb because of power consumption because they picked LPDDR3 memory instead of LPDDR4.
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    - greedo 10y ago
      RIP Magsafe...
- yuhong 10y ago
  I was for a while thinking of the case where Apple bought NeXT but Gil Amelio and later Ellen Hancock stayed as CEO, and CHRP actually happened. While PC margins was declining, I was thinking that Apple could mostly focus on the higher-end PC and workstation markets. I wonder how this would have compared to Tim Cook today.

threeseed 10y ago

No Apple will never go back to licensing their OS. It nearly killed them after Power Computing went straight for Apple's profit margins instead of trying to entice new customers to the ecosystem. The fact is that many of the innovations we come to appreciate Apple for come from their ownership of both the hardware and the software.

protomyth 10y ago
> The fact is that many of the innovations we come to appreciate Apple for come from their ownership of both the hardware and the software. Since they switched to Intel, what are these innovations that I cannot just buy? I see the new Touch Bar, but even that I can skip[1]. I really wonder what would be different? I doubt they will ever go back, but Apple sure isn't doing a whole lot to satisfy my desktop love. What exactly on the Mac mini and Mac Pro cannot be bought by a third party? 1) The whole idea of something that make me move my eyes to the keyboard is unwelcome.
- redial 10y ago
  I don't know if you would count this as innovations, but magsafe, the glass trackpad still ahead of anything else and the full unibody enclosure in my mind are clear innovations that made a mac a much better alternative than the competition. I also think they were only possible because people are willing to pay a little more to get macOS, thus allowing Apple a higher price point to develop and include those features.
  - protomyth 10y ago
    Neither of which helps the desktop computers. Hackintoshes aren't all about getting a cheaper computer these days. They are about buying current chips and higher memory. I'm now one of those willing to pay for macOS, but the hardware is a big downside to the OS experience. For example, being limited to 16gb because of power consumption because they picked LPDDR3 memory instead of LPDDR4.
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  - greedo 10y ago
    RIP Magsafe...
yuhong 10y ago
I was for a while thinking of the case where Apple bought NeXT but Gil Amelio and later Ellen Hancock stayed as CEO, and CHRP actually happened. While PC margins was declining, I was thinking that Apple could mostly focus on the higher-end PC and workstation markets. I wonder how this would have compared to Tim Cook today.