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Casual Sexism Fridays

12 points by Quanttek 10y ago

striking 10y ago
> 7. Chivalry. On Fridays, it will be expected that men will hold doors open for women regardless of convenience. You know, I used to hold doors open for people regardless of their gender and expecting nothing in return. After all, I'd like the same to be done for me. But you're right. You've inspired me to never hold the door for anyone. Ever again. Because they might see it as just because of their gender that I'm holding the door for them.
- solipsism 10y ago
  The fact that you held the door open for everyone doesn't mean everyone does. I think we'll all still be okay if you stop though.
  - striking 10y ago
    No, I know. But I'm trying to show a slightly more complex idea with that comment. Pieces like these are unhelpful. They simultaneously reinforce the thoughts of the people that agree with them while turning off anyone who feels neutrally about it (or disagrees with it). All I got from this piece was "Corporations. Men. Awful, am I right?" God forbid someone accidentally be nice to you. And I get it, it's a list of generally awful things that happen that shouldn't happen. But the presentation of these legitimate concerns ends up just being demeaning. No one is going to read this and say "wow, this piece is talking about me. I should stop being a misogynist." Pieces that are intended to change minds treat those minds with respect. You level with the person you disagree with and talk things out. You find common ground and show them your perspective, because chances are they have no idea what you actually believe. "They don't hate you. They don't even know you. They hate the imaginary you, the one they've conceived in their own minds." I don't see any of that happening here. I left a comment simply because it's too bad yet another piece on such an important issue, another chance to change someone's mind, was wasted.
    - solipsism 10y ago
      I don't think the article is going to make things any worse. But we can agree it's pointless and isn't going to make anything better.
      - striking 10y ago
        I agree with you not one but both of those points, for what it's worth. We're definitely not worse off for having read the piece. Thanks.
  - w8rbt 10y ago
    Holding the door open is just a show of courtesy and respect for other human beings. I do it for everyone.
- telesilla 10y ago
  Where I come from, everyone holds open the door for whoever is coming after them. Once the community you live in gets over the hump that all gestures must be gendered or have hidden layers of intent, it's pretty easy to be kind for the sake of kindness itself and not worry about being perceived as chasing chivalry as a way of getting something. Keep holding the door open and imagine you are living in a post-patriarchal society?
yrio9 10y ago
Is this satire or this guy is feminazi? I can't tell from his writing.
urigagarinulti 10y ago
Is this satire or this guy is feminazi / hyper-sjw? I can't tell from article for sure.

12 points by Quanttek 10y ago

> 7. Chivalry. On Fridays, it will be expected that men will hold doors open for women regardless of convenience. You know, I used to hold doors open for people regardless of their gender and expecting nothing in return. After all, I'd like the same to be done for me. But you're right. You've inspired me to never hold the door for anyone. Ever again. Because they might see it as just because of their gender that I'm holding the door for them.

solipsism 10y ago
The fact that you held the door open for everyone doesn't mean everyone does. I think we'll all still be okay if you stop though.
- striking 10y ago
  No, I know. But I'm trying to show a slightly more complex idea with that comment. Pieces like these are unhelpful. They simultaneously reinforce the thoughts of the people that agree with them while turning off anyone who feels neutrally about it (or disagrees with it). All I got from this piece was "Corporations. Men. Awful, am I right?" God forbid someone accidentally be nice to you. And I get it, it's a list of generally awful things that happen that shouldn't happen. But the presentation of these legitimate concerns ends up just being demeaning. No one is going to read this and say "wow, this piece is talking about me. I should stop being a misogynist." Pieces that are intended to change minds treat those minds with respect. You level with the person you disagree with and talk things out. You find common ground and show them your perspective, because chances are they have no idea what you actually believe. "They don't hate you. They don't even know you. They hate the imaginary you, the one they've conceived in their own minds." I don't see any of that happening here. I left a comment simply because it's too bad yet another piece on such an important issue, another chance to change someone's mind, was wasted.
  - solipsism 10y ago
    I don't think the article is going to make things any worse. But we can agree it's pointless and isn't going to make anything better.
    - striking 10y ago
      I agree with you not one but both of those points, for what it's worth. We're definitely not worse off for having read the piece. Thanks.
- w8rbt 10y ago
  Holding the door open is just a show of courtesy and respect for other human beings. I do it for everyone.
telesilla 10y ago
Where I come from, everyone holds open the door for whoever is coming after them. Once the community you live in gets over the hump that all gestures must be gendered or have hidden layers of intent, it's pretty easy to be kind for the sake of kindness itself and not worry about being perceived as chasing chivalry as a way of getting something. Keep holding the door open and imagine you are living in a post-patriarchal society?

yrio9 10y ago

Is this satire or this guy is feminazi? I can't tell from his writing.

urigagarinulti 10y ago

Is this satire or this guy is feminazi / hyper-sjw? I can't tell from article for sure.