So after I bring up the fact that DANE is being used for SMTP you state that no one is using it because it's not being used for HTTPS? BTW I'm not even arguing

So after I bring up the fact that DANE is being used for SMTP you state that no one is using it because it's not being used for HTTPS? BTW I'm not even arguing for DANE in this thread. I was arguing for DNSSEC specifically. You brought up DANE to make some point about DNSSEC. But we can have DNSSEC without DANE.