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What's wrong with that? 70% of NFL players are African Americans who by and large, for whatever reason, think Trump is a racist.

by atomi 10y ago

shawn-furyan 10y ago
'for whatever reason' I think his numerous, recurring, overtly and thinly veiled racist remarks may play a role.
tdkl 10y ago
> 70% of NFL players are African Americans Showing that Kaepernick is a dumbass and a hypocrite. [1] And that's what parent meant. It's a play to get extra 15 minutes of fame that modern media provides, because it has an extra narrative for this kind of content. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGueTYN-Ve8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGueTYN-Ve8
- chillwaves 10y ago
  That video and your post are so awful. Is this the kind of discourse we want on hacker news? So black people are not oppressed in America because some are allowed to play football? Not convincing.
  - alphapapa 10y ago
    So black people are oppressed in America because not all of them play football? This is the flip-side of your logic coin. See how that works? Is this the kind of discourse we want on hacker news?
  - tdkl 10y ago
    Thanks for your arguments, compared to this "awful video" which actually provided some. Your post is a showcase of how easy it's rather to jump on the shaming bandwagon the modern media is enforcing through its echo chamber instead of viewing specific cases separately, with clear head and actual data.
  - tdkl 10y ago
    And here's a great example of what I talked about - if black people aren't supporting the right political candidate, the news isn't interesting enough to spread it : https://youtu.be/cJV41gS2c8M https://youtu.be/cJV41gS2c8M Imagine if that were white Trump supporters, media would be trembling from justice calls.
  - cnnsucks 10y ago
    "Is this the kind of discourse we want on hacker news?" It's pretty unavoidable if we are going to deal with topics like ESPN and the NFL in today's climate; polling outfits are actively investigating this matter and discovering just how badly ESPN/NFL core demos are reacting to the SJW lecturing being foisted on them. Slashdot ruined itself the same way; posting controversial topics that produce huge flame wars. If you don't like it then see that more care is taken regarding which stories appear. "So black people are not oppressed in America because some are allowed to play football? Not convincing." That's ironic. An earlier response quoted some ESPN anti-Trump propaganda lecturing its dwindling white viewership that blacks aren't all "oppressed" ghetto denizens: "Did you know that not all black people live in the inner city? Did you know that not all inner cities are ghettos?" Other clever folk are claiming that ESPN has nothing to worry about because there are plenty of minorities that can afford $100+/month in cable bills despite all the terrible "oppression" they live under. BLM grievance mongering is bad business if you want white disposable income. All that's left to discover now is just how much damage professional sports is willing to self-inflict before they figure this out.
CptJamesCook 10y ago
NFL players aren't the audience. The general public is, and at least 40% of the public doesn't think Trump is a racist.
- infosample 10y ago
  > at least 40% 40% is a polling number of likely Trump voters which means about 16% of the U.S. population will vote for him and some of them maybe think Trump is a racist.
cnnsucks 10y ago
"What's wrong with that?" Nothing at all is wrong with that. If ESPN, NFL, et al. feel the need to implode their white guy safe space and destroy their own finances in the process, well, it's a free country. I'm good with it. It will also serve to pull some of these people out of the la-la land they live in and face the reality of the hate filled grievance mongers they're surrounded by and have been studiously ignoring all their lives. I see that as a big win. So yes, please continue; fill every game and all the space in between with lectures and --- most importantly --- continue pretending the collapse of NFL revenue has nothing to do with it. Some have argued that this is really about cord cutting and nothing to do with the intrusion of political controversy. That is badly naive. Watch a Trump rally some time. Call it cultural interest or whatever. Note the thousands of people yelling "CNN sucks! CNN sucks! CNN sucks!" No, it's not really about the Cable News Network specifically; they have the entire MSM in mind, including Hollywood, all cable news and --- now --- professional sports, the only remaining reason they had to justify their $100+/month cable bill. It's exactly the same demographic; some are just a bit ahead of the curve. The rest will follow.
- atomi 10y ago
  What is it you want?

What's wrong with that? 70% of NFL players are African Americans who by and large, for whatever reason, think Trump is a racist.

by atomi 10y ago

What's wrong with that? 70% of NFL players are African Americans who by and large, for whatever reason, think Trump is a racist.

shawn-furyan 10y ago

'for whatever reason' I think his numerous, recurring, overtly and thinly veiled racist remarks may play a role.

tdkl 10y ago

> 70% of NFL players are African Americans Showing that Kaepernick is a dumbass and a hypocrite. [1] And that's what parent meant. It's a play to get extra 15 minutes of fame that modern media provides, because it has an extra narrative for this kind of content. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGueTYN-Ve8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGueTYN-Ve8

chillwaves 10y ago
That video and your post are so awful. Is this the kind of discourse we want on hacker news? So black people are not oppressed in America because some are allowed to play football? Not convincing.
- alphapapa 10y ago
  So black people are oppressed in America because not all of them play football? This is the flip-side of your logic coin. See how that works? Is this the kind of discourse we want on hacker news?
- tdkl 10y ago
  Thanks for your arguments, compared to this "awful video" which actually provided some. Your post is a showcase of how easy it's rather to jump on the shaming bandwagon the modern media is enforcing through its echo chamber instead of viewing specific cases separately, with clear head and actual data.
- tdkl 10y ago
  And here's a great example of what I talked about - if black people aren't supporting the right political candidate, the news isn't interesting enough to spread it : https://youtu.be/cJV41gS2c8M https://youtu.be/cJV41gS2c8M Imagine if that were white Trump supporters, media would be trembling from justice calls.
- cnnsucks 10y ago
  "Is this the kind of discourse we want on hacker news?" It's pretty unavoidable if we are going to deal with topics like ESPN and the NFL in today's climate; polling outfits are actively investigating this matter and discovering just how badly ESPN/NFL core demos are reacting to the SJW lecturing being foisted on them. Slashdot ruined itself the same way; posting controversial topics that produce huge flame wars. If you don't like it then see that more care is taken regarding which stories appear. "So black people are not oppressed in America because some are allowed to play football? Not convincing." That's ironic. An earlier response quoted some ESPN anti-Trump propaganda lecturing its dwindling white viewership that blacks aren't all "oppressed" ghetto denizens: "Did you know that not all black people live in the inner city? Did you know that not all inner cities are ghettos?" Other clever folk are claiming that ESPN has nothing to worry about because there are plenty of minorities that can afford $100+/month in cable bills despite all the terrible "oppression" they live under. BLM grievance mongering is bad business if you want white disposable income. All that's left to discover now is just how much damage professional sports is willing to self-inflict before they figure this out.

CptJamesCook 10y ago

NFL players aren't the audience. The general public is, and at least 40% of the public doesn't think Trump is a racist.

infosample 10y ago
> at least 40% 40% is a polling number of likely Trump voters which means about 16% of the U.S. population will vote for him and some of them maybe think Trump is a racist.

cnnsucks 10y ago

"What's wrong with that?" Nothing at all is wrong with that. If ESPN, NFL, et al. feel the need to implode their white guy safe space and destroy their own finances in the process, well, it's a free country. I'm good with it. It will also serve to pull some of these people out of the la-la land they live in and face the reality of the hate filled grievance mongers they're surrounded by and have been studiously ignoring all their lives. I see that as a big win. So yes, please continue; fill every game and all the space in between with lectures and --- most importantly --- continue pretending the collapse of NFL revenue has nothing to do with it. Some have argued that this is really about cord cutting and nothing to do with the intrusion of political controversy. That is badly naive. Watch a Trump rally some time. Call it cultural interest or whatever. Note the thousands of people yelling "CNN sucks! CNN sucks! CNN sucks!" No, it's not really about the Cable News Network specifically; they have the entire MSM in mind, including Hollywood, all cable news and --- now --- professional sports, the only remaining reason they had to justify their $100+/month cable bill. It's exactly the same demographic; some are just a bit ahead of the curve. The rest will follow.

atomi 10y ago
What is it you want?