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i quit watching because of the enormous amount of commercials and bullshit.. it shouldn't take 4-5hrs for a football game.. kickoff commercial, flag, commerical

by tmat 10y ago

i quit watching because of the enormous amount of commercials and bullshit.. it shouldn't take 4-5hrs for a football game.. kickoff commercial, flag, commerical, touchdown commercial, kickoff commercial.. blech. and i played all my life into college and love the game, but i refuse to watch.

EpicEng 10y ago
Football games are universally 3-3.25 hours long (omitting overtime games.) They keep to the same schedule each week. Do you even watch football?
- jhatax 10y ago
  This is the crux of why viewership is declining. Who in their right mind these days has 3+ hours to watch a game that has only an hour of play time. And realistically speaking, the average "actual" play time is sub-15 minutes [1]. Just because this has been the case, doesn't make it the template for the future. The league knows it has a problem but inertia, greed and a clueless front office are impediments to change. Let's call it like it is: The league has become greedier with every passing year. And please don't believe the hype: They don't care for the players health and safety either, despite the rule changes [2]. Having been in the stands at a number of games, it's obvious that the players want to go and dislike the commercial breaks because it breaks their flow. To summarize, players aren't happy, fans aren't happy; no surprise then that ratings are falling. The path forward is to rein in game time (2-2.5 hours a game) and make more games available on interactive, online platforms like Twitter. Additionally, it is time that the league revise their monetization strategy for game broadcasts. What works for soccer might not work for the NFL given that a season is 16-weeks, but what's in place today isn't future-friendly. The league needs to evolve with the changing milieu or perish. Fortunately for a fan of the game like me, the league has shown that it can change its spots. 1. https://www.google.com/search?q=average+actual+play+time+NFL&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari https://www.google.com/search?q=average+actual+play+time+NFL... 2. http://www.theplayerstribune.com/richard-sherman-nfl-player-relationship-pov-video/ http://www.theplayerstribune.com/richard-sherman-nfl-player-...
- kodablah 10y ago
  Do you? I assume you only mean professional football because college games average longer than your "universal" time you mentioned. If you only mean the NFL, that's not quite "universal" then, is it? And if you did mean only NFL, it was really unfair for you to question that the GP doesn't watch football when you didn't even qualify your constraints.
  - b2600 10y ago
    College games are slightly longer however both NFL and FBS games are between 3 and 3.5 hours. ~3:07 for NFL [1]. ~3:20 for FBS [2]. "...college games average longer than your "universal" time you mentioned." is not an accurate statement. [1] http://www.oregonlive.com/nfl/index.ssf/2015/11/nfl_games_running_longer_than.html http://www.oregonlive.com/nfl/index.ssf/2015/11/nfl_games_ru... [2] http://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/how-long-is-too-long-a-college-football-game/ http://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/how-long-is-t...
    - kodablah 10y ago
      GP: > Football games are universally 3-3.25 hours long You: > "...college games average longer than your "universal" time you mentioned." is not an accurate statement Your second link: > Football Bowl Subdivision games averaged 3 hours, 23 minutes (i.e. 3.38 hours long) So it is a 100% accurate statement, even if the difference is small. Regardless, the GP asking if GGP watches or saying someone's statement is not accurate (when it clearly is) does not help the discussion. Games are long and not a subject worth being dismissive about.
      - b2600 10y ago
        No, it's not accurate. I am not dismissive of the issue or the facts. Merely dismissive of your erroneous statements. The GPP mentions 4-5 hours. GP's correction is accurate. Your criticism of GP is pedantic considering he's in the ballpark (no pun) and GPP is wildly off.

by tmat 10y ago

EpicEng 10y ago

Football games are universally 3-3.25 hours long (omitting overtime games.) They keep to the same schedule each week. Do you even watch football?

jhatax 10y ago
This is the crux of why viewership is declining. Who in their right mind these days has 3+ hours to watch a game that has only an hour of play time. And realistically speaking, the average "actual" play time is sub-15 minutes [1]. Just because this has been the case, doesn't make it the template for the future. The league knows it has a problem but inertia, greed and a clueless front office are impediments to change. Let's call it like it is: The league has become greedier with every passing year. And please don't believe the hype: They don't care for the players health and safety either, despite the rule changes [2]. Having been in the stands at a number of games, it's obvious that the players want to go and dislike the commercial breaks because it breaks their flow. To summarize, players aren't happy, fans aren't happy; no surprise then that ratings are falling. The path forward is to rein in game time (2-2.5 hours a game) and make more games available on interactive, online platforms like Twitter. Additionally, it is time that the league revise their monetization strategy for game broadcasts. What works for soccer might not work for the NFL given that a season is 16-weeks, but what's in place today isn't future-friendly. The league needs to evolve with the changing milieu or perish. Fortunately for a fan of the game like me, the league has shown that it can change its spots. 1. https://www.google.com/search?q=average+actual+play+time+NFL&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari https://www.google.com/search?q=average+actual+play+time+NFL... 2. http://www.theplayerstribune.com/richard-sherman-nfl-player-relationship-pov-video/ http://www.theplayerstribune.com/richard-sherman-nfl-player-...
kodablah 10y ago
Do you? I assume you only mean professional football because college games average longer than your "universal" time you mentioned. If you only mean the NFL, that's not quite "universal" then, is it? And if you did mean only NFL, it was really unfair for you to question that the GP doesn't watch football when you didn't even qualify your constraints.
- b2600 10y ago
  College games are slightly longer however both NFL and FBS games are between 3 and 3.5 hours. ~3:07 for NFL [1]. ~3:20 for FBS [2]. "...college games average longer than your "universal" time you mentioned." is not an accurate statement. [1] http://www.oregonlive.com/nfl/index.ssf/2015/11/nfl_games_running_longer_than.html http://www.oregonlive.com/nfl/index.ssf/2015/11/nfl_games_ru... [2] http://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/how-long-is-too-long-a-college-football-game/ http://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/how-long-is-t...
  - kodablah 10y ago
    GP: > Football games are universally 3-3.25 hours long You: > "...college games average longer than your "universal" time you mentioned." is not an accurate statement Your second link: > Football Bowl Subdivision games averaged 3 hours, 23 minutes (i.e. 3.38 hours long) So it is a 100% accurate statement, even if the difference is small. Regardless, the GP asking if GGP watches or saying someone's statement is not accurate (when it clearly is) does not help the discussion. Games are long and not a subject worth being dismissive about.
    - b2600 10y ago
      No, it's not accurate. I am not dismissive of the issue or the facts. Merely dismissive of your erroneous statements. The GPP mentions 4-5 hours. GP's correction is accurate. Your criticism of GP is pedantic considering he's in the ballpark (no pun) and GPP is wildly off.