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> I agree to treat everyone in the Airbnb community—regardless of their race, religion, national origin, ethnicity, disability, sex, gender identity, sexual ori

by aikah 10y ago

> I agree to treat everyone in the Airbnb community—regardless of their race, religion, national origin, ethnicity, disability, sex, gender identity, sexual orientation, or age—with respect, and without judgment or bias. This isn't really "non discrimination", this is a vague non binding statement. The FAQ doesn't even says what happens when that "commitment" is broken. Just that you have to accept it. So the title here is misleading.

avar 10y ago
Did you just not read two paragraphs below that where it says "What if I decline the commitment?", or do you just think it's pertinent for some reason? Seems pretty clear: You can't discriminate, if you do we terminate your account at our discretion. Edit: I read the question only in the narrow sense of "what if you refuse to accept the new policy" v.s. "what if you break the policy once you accept it?". The answer to the latter seems to be: 1. You have to agree to Airbnb's TOS to use their site: https://www.airbnb.com/terms https://www.airbnb.com/terms 2. Section 24.C ("Termination for breach, suspension and other measures") refers to section 14 ("User Conduct") which says you can't violate the "Policies and Community Guidelines" which links to https://www.airbnb.com/help/topic/250/terms---policies https://www.airbnb.com/help/topic/250/terms---policies 3. That links to their nondiscrimination policy (https://www.airbnb.com/help/topic/533/nondiscrimination https://www.airbnb.com/help/topic/533/nondiscrimination), which seems to be the longer legalese version of what the linked blogpost is a tl;dr of.
- lmartel 10y ago
  No, that's not clear. What's clear is that if you press "no" on the popup, they'll terminate your account. What will happen if you press "yes" and then continue to discriminate however you like? My guess: not much.
- sparky_z 10y ago
  That's what happens if you decline the commitment. But what if you break the commitment? (That is, accept the commitment but discriminate anyway). I'll bet nothing at all, unless an egregious incident starts trending on social media.
- aikah 10y ago
  > "What if I decline the commitment?", It doesn't explain what happens if one accepts the commitment and still discriminates. > Seems pretty clear: You can't discriminate, if you do we terminate your account at our discretion. That's not what the text says. The text basically says : "If you don't answer Yes to the commitment, we will terminates your account". It doesn't say "if you actually do discriminate we will terminates your account" Seems pretty clear what that FAQ doesn't say. It says nothing about what Airbnb will do if an host or guest discriminates.
  - jacquesm 10y ago
    It would be quite nice to see how they intend to prove that a host discriminated.
    - Kliment 10y ago
      Since they can unilaterally suspend accounts for any or no reason already, I don't expect they think they need to prove anything.
      - welly 10y ago
        Sure they can, but do they though? Possibly on rare occasions but no noteworthy cases spring to mind.
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netsharc 10y ago
"I agree to the terms and conditions."

by aikah 10y ago

avar 10y ago

Did you just not read two paragraphs below that where it says "What if I decline the commitment?", or do you just think it's pertinent for some reason? Seems pretty clear: You can't discriminate, if you do we terminate your account at our discretion. Edit: I read the question only in the narrow sense of "what if you refuse to accept the new policy" v.s. "what if you break the policy once you accept it?". The answer to the latter seems to be: 1. You have to agree to Airbnb's TOS to use their site: https://www.airbnb.com/terms https://www.airbnb.com/terms 2. Section 24.C ("Termination for breach, suspension and other measures") refers to section 14 ("User Conduct") which says you can't violate the "Policies and Community Guidelines" which links to https://www.airbnb.com/help/topic/250/terms---policies https://www.airbnb.com/help/topic/250/terms---policies 3. That links to their nondiscrimination policy (https://www.airbnb.com/help/topic/533/nondiscrimination https://www.airbnb.com/help/topic/533/nondiscrimination), which seems to be the longer legalese version of what the linked blogpost is a tl;dr of.

lmartel 10y ago
No, that's not clear. What's clear is that if you press "no" on the popup, they'll terminate your account. What will happen if you press "yes" and then continue to discriminate however you like? My guess: not much.
sparky_z 10y ago
That's what happens if you decline the commitment. But what if you break the commitment? (That is, accept the commitment but discriminate anyway). I'll bet nothing at all, unless an egregious incident starts trending on social media.
aikah 10y ago
> "What if I decline the commitment?", It doesn't explain what happens if one accepts the commitment and still discriminates. > Seems pretty clear: You can't discriminate, if you do we terminate your account at our discretion. That's not what the text says. The text basically says : "If you don't answer Yes to the commitment, we will terminates your account". It doesn't say "if you actually do discriminate we will terminates your account" Seems pretty clear what that FAQ doesn't say. It says nothing about what Airbnb will do if an host or guest discriminates.
- jacquesm 10y ago
  It would be quite nice to see how they intend to prove that a host discriminated.
  - Kliment 10y ago
    Since they can unilaterally suspend accounts for any or no reason already, I don't expect they think they need to prove anything.
    - welly 10y ago
      Sure they can, but do they though? Possibly on rare occasions but no noteworthy cases spring to mind.

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netsharc 10y ago

"I agree to the terms and conditions."