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I don't think it's a role reversal at all, rather everybody has been chasing Apple for so long the competition has caught up and surpassed in some aspects. Who

by sumoboy 10y ago

I don't think it's a role reversal at all, rather everybody has been chasing Apple for so long the competition has caught up and surpassed in some aspects. Who doesn't have a laptop that hasn't been modeled after the macbook. Also remember that everything Apple introduces doesn't turn to gold every time, they have plenty of product feature failures. The only innovation I saw yesterday which will be copied really came out of Microsoft with the Surface Studio and Surface dial. I'm sure microsoft would really like to see a surge in high-end desktops. The only worthwhile technical feature Apple did was adding touch id in the touch bar, but even then how often would I use this? Also seems like the more logical place for touch id is actually on the mouse where my fingers are a majority of the time. The only commonality between these two is there marketing departments thinking people want to spend $3k+ on products, no reversal there.

rjbwork 10y ago
>Who doesn't have a laptop that hasn't been modeled after the macbook. As soon as they can pack the power i'm looking for in my laptops into an apple style case, i'll be there. Until then i'll be sticking with my boxy black Clevo.
- bitwize 10y ago
  Surprise: Virtually all laptops are modelled after an Apple machine. The boxy black ones are PowerBook clones. Apple established the dedign language used by every laptop manufacturer since, in the early 90s: clamshell case, hinge at the rear, keyboard towards the back of the lower half with the trackpad front and center and all that wonderful blank space on either side usable as wrist rests.
  - kbutler 10y ago
    Surprise: Apple wasn't the first with a "clamshell case, hinge at the rear, keyboard towards the back of the lower half...all that wonderful blank space on either side usable as wrist rests." 1983: http://cosy.com/language/cosyhard/cosyhard.htm http://cosy.com/language/cosyhard/cosyhard.htm - http://cosy.com/language/cosyhard/ampropn.gif http://cosy.com/language/cosyhard/ampropn.gif (note: no trackpad - but then, the original powerbook didn't, either: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerBook_100 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerBook_100, and that round trackball is in just the same position as that round lid latch...) Apple does a great job integrating elements that may have existed before, and is definitely a trendsetter in styling, but they also get credit for creating a lot of elements that existed before. ("Great artists steal.")
  - cheiVia0 10y ago
    OK, the palm rest and the pointing device, I'll give it to you, but saying that all laptops are Powerbook clones is a big stretch. The "notebook" firm factor originated from NEC UltraLite, released 3 years earlier. http://old.chuma.org/ultralite/index.shtml http://old.chuma.org/ultralite/index.shtml https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NEC_UltraLite https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NEC_UltraLite
  - rjbwork 10y ago
    I dunno, I have to agree with the other dude that they pretty much just cribbed from the NEC UltraLite.

by sumoboy 10y ago

rjbwork 10y ago

>Who doesn't have a laptop that hasn't been modeled after the macbook. As soon as they can pack the power i'm looking for in my laptops into an apple style case, i'll be there. Until then i'll be sticking with my boxy black Clevo.

bitwize 10y ago
Surprise: Virtually all laptops are modelled after an Apple machine. The boxy black ones are PowerBook clones. Apple established the dedign language used by every laptop manufacturer since, in the early 90s: clamshell case, hinge at the rear, keyboard towards the back of the lower half with the trackpad front and center and all that wonderful blank space on either side usable as wrist rests.
- kbutler 10y ago
  Surprise: Apple wasn't the first with a "clamshell case, hinge at the rear, keyboard towards the back of the lower half...all that wonderful blank space on either side usable as wrist rests." 1983: http://cosy.com/language/cosyhard/cosyhard.htm http://cosy.com/language/cosyhard/cosyhard.htm - http://cosy.com/language/cosyhard/ampropn.gif http://cosy.com/language/cosyhard/ampropn.gif (note: no trackpad - but then, the original powerbook didn't, either: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerBook_100 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerBook_100, and that round trackball is in just the same position as that round lid latch...) Apple does a great job integrating elements that may have existed before, and is definitely a trendsetter in styling, but they also get credit for creating a lot of elements that existed before. ("Great artists steal.")
- cheiVia0 10y ago
  OK, the palm rest and the pointing device, I'll give it to you, but saying that all laptops are Powerbook clones is a big stretch. The "notebook" firm factor originated from NEC UltraLite, released 3 years earlier. http://old.chuma.org/ultralite/index.shtml http://old.chuma.org/ultralite/index.shtml https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NEC_UltraLite https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NEC_UltraLite
- rjbwork 10y ago
  I dunno, I have to agree with the other dude that they pretty much just cribbed from the NEC UltraLite.