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Function keys? How do you step into a function in xcode? F7? Continue? F6. What about in Windows? As the right-click menu button doesn't exist, shift-F10 does w

Function keys? How do you step into a function in xcode? F7? Continue? F6. What about in Windows? As the right-click menu button doesn't exist, shift-F10 does what you want on a mac. But apparently this is now impossible. And I wouldn't like to imagine the wasted time in Visual Studio trying to click continue and step into etc compared with F10 and F11. I would get zero work done all day. Also on the Mac I use ctrl-F2 for the menu bar etc etc etc I cannot imagine life without function keys. I drive projectors with my display port. I record my band with the FireWire interface on mine. I copy files off my camera with SD card (it's a Sony HX60). I use 16GB of RAM because I develop under OSX and Windows at the same time, given that Windows is running in a VM and running Visual Studio. Basically what we're expecting is a full useful laptop that is capable of a variety of uses without additional dongles and hardware. What's the point of a slim laptop if you need a thick bag of dongles just to use it? It's truly stupid. My Mac isn't just for web browsing. And this isn't whining - it's having expectations of a device that it is not some form of glorified etch-a-sketch. If you stick the word "pro" on it, it has to be more than a consumer device. What's next? The enter key is redundant?

freehunter 10y ago
There's the single biggest problem I have with people complaining about this on behalf of all professionals everywhere: we're not all programmers. I don't step through code. I don't. Never have. There are some valid complaints. I use Ethernet and VGA a lot, and the dongles I already bought are useless with the new machine since it doesn't have Thunderbolt ports. Kind of annoying, but everyone kind of accepts that Ethernet and VGA are gone now. No one sheds a tear for them, but I still have to use them. No one sheds a tear for serial, but I still have to use it. I really think it's hilarious that the one thing everyone seems to agree that we like about the Mac is that it's Unix, and Unix is all about small, single-purpose modules that work together. Yet when Apple creates a laptop that's the embodiment of that philosophy, it's the end of the world. So yeah, you can keep acting like it's not a pro machine because you can't step through code with your function keys (which I'll remind you, still fucking exist), or you can realize the "pro" world is a lot bigger than your needs. At least your function keys are still built into the laptop. I have to carry an Ethernet, VGA, and serial adapter with me everywhere. It could be worse. But I wouldn't saddle your machine with my particular needs, because not everyone needs what you need. Pro doesn't mean "specifically tailored to your particular needs".
- 72deluxe 10y ago
  No need for the profanity. I am stating that if a replacement machine doesn't do what the previous generation did, its user base will shrink as it will no longer be useful to the same user base. This is precisely what everyone is upset about - it isn't an improvement if we can't use it in the same situation. Certainly, we have different requirements from the machine. But whilst stating that my user requirements shouldn't be your requirements and that I shouldn't expect them to be, you are then asserting that people who don't fit into your happy requirements set are all "whining"?
  - freehunter 10y ago
    Obviously there is a need for profanity or the entire concept would never have been invented. It's actually quite perfect for this situation to emphasize that the function keys you're complaining no longer exist? They do still exist. So... yeah, you're whining about nothing. Oooh, they changed the kind of key, so what? They're still there. You can still use them. They didn't take them away, so your entire point is completely gone. I'm not even sure where this idea of "the function keys are gone" even came from. Apple showed them on stage for crying out loud! They're still fucking there. How do you step through code? THE SAME WAY YOU DID ON THE OLD ONE.
    - 72deluxe 10y ago
      In this context, I would say that there is no need for profanity. I wasn't questioning the invention of profanity itself. You sound an angry person.
- majewsky 10y ago
  > everyone kind of accepts that Ethernet [is] gone now I just want to emphatically disagree with this particular point.
  - freehunter 10y ago
    Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's not generally accepted. When was the last time a MacBook had one? And they still sell like hotcakes. Ultrabooks are selling pretty well too, without Ethernet. Even the Dell XPS that everyone recommends doesn't have Ethernet. It's generally accepted that Ethernet is gone now because people have been buying laptops without Ethernet for years now.

freehunter 10y ago

There's the single biggest problem I have with people complaining about this on behalf of all professionals everywhere: we're not all programmers. I don't step through code. I don't. Never have. There are some valid complaints. I use Ethernet and VGA a lot, and the dongles I already bought are useless with the new machine since it doesn't have Thunderbolt ports. Kind of annoying, but everyone kind of accepts that Ethernet and VGA are gone now. No one sheds a tear for them, but I still have to use them. No one sheds a tear for serial, but I still have to use it. I really think it's hilarious that the one thing everyone seems to agree that we like about the Mac is that it's Unix, and Unix is all about small, single-purpose modules that work together. Yet when Apple creates a laptop that's the embodiment of that philosophy, it's the end of the world. So yeah, you can keep acting like it's not a pro machine because you can't step through code with your function keys (which I'll remind you, still fucking exist), or you can realize the "pro" world is a lot bigger than your needs. At least your function keys are still built into the laptop. I have to carry an Ethernet, VGA, and serial adapter with me everywhere. It could be worse. But I wouldn't saddle your machine with my particular needs, because not everyone needs what you need. Pro doesn't mean "specifically tailored to your particular needs".

72deluxe 10y ago
No need for the profanity. I am stating that if a replacement machine doesn't do what the previous generation did, its user base will shrink as it will no longer be useful to the same user base. This is precisely what everyone is upset about - it isn't an improvement if we can't use it in the same situation. Certainly, we have different requirements from the machine. But whilst stating that my user requirements shouldn't be your requirements and that I shouldn't expect them to be, you are then asserting that people who don't fit into your happy requirements set are all "whining"?
- freehunter 10y ago
  Obviously there is a need for profanity or the entire concept would never have been invented. It's actually quite perfect for this situation to emphasize that the function keys you're complaining no longer exist? They do still exist. So... yeah, you're whining about nothing. Oooh, they changed the kind of key, so what? They're still there. You can still use them. They didn't take them away, so your entire point is completely gone. I'm not even sure where this idea of "the function keys are gone" even came from. Apple showed them on stage for crying out loud! They're still fucking there. How do you step through code? THE SAME WAY YOU DID ON THE OLD ONE.
  - 72deluxe 10y ago
    In this context, I would say that there is no need for profanity. I wasn't questioning the invention of profanity itself. You sound an angry person.
majewsky 10y ago
> everyone kind of accepts that Ethernet [is] gone now I just want to emphatically disagree with this particular point.
- freehunter 10y ago
  Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's not generally accepted. When was the last time a MacBook had one? And they still sell like hotcakes. Ultrabooks are selling pretty well too, without Ethernet. Even the Dell XPS that everyone recommends doesn't have Ethernet. It's generally accepted that Ethernet is gone now because people have been buying laptops without Ethernet for years now.