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I was very disappointed too, however I've seen similar disappointments when Apple dropped CDROM, usb, audio jacks etc. Eventually everyone gets used to it, and

by dewiz 10y ago

I was very disappointed too, however I've seen similar disappointments when Apple dropped CDROM, usb, audio jacks etc. Eventually everyone gets used to it, and admittedly they are trying to simplify the keyboard IMHO. I'm super happy to have bought a maxed out mbp15 before not too long ago, so I won't have to deal with the devices/adaptors market catching up to Apple. And BTW, looks like the disappointment is all around the keyboard. FWIW I use an external KB most of the time so I wouldn't care even if I upgraded and lose my Fx keys. Anyway Linux is not ready to replace MacOS simply because it lacks many apps, Windows...well that's a joke for your battery and its Bash implementation is still too young, let's see in 3 years from now. My 2 cents, ymmv

pmarreck 10y ago
No word on the invisibly-killed-off and yet so sexy Mac Pro, I guess :P
- sparky_ 10y ago
  But can it run Desert Combat? :)
  - pmarreck 10y ago
    HEY! YOU! ;) What's up? Playing Overwatch these days, at least until I can actually play Battlefield 1 (waiting on some cash for new hardware)
andromeduck 10y ago
Yeah I've really yet to see a credible iTerm 2 like alternative on W10 even if WSL works out.
- Eridrus 10y ago
  Assuming WSL works out, what do you find lacking?
dbg31415 10y ago
Mostly agree, but MagSafe was amazing and USB is what everyone in the world uses... we will just have to get a hub... it's not like when they killed floppies or CDs or Ethernet Ports and I hadn't used those in years anyway... This stings. I still like HDMI... literally all the ports on my 2013 MBP I think are perfect. Except the card reader... that's dumb and can go away. Ugh, I don't care about plugging in dual 5k monitors, I use my laptop monitor when I use my laptop -- I only care about HDMI for conference room sharing since everyone has that. I'm sure in a year I won't care once I buy a hub and new adapters... I apppreviate pushing the envelope but I like more "standard things" like USB and HDMI.
- arthurfm 10y ago
  Perhaps the reason Apple didn't include an HDMI port is because Skylake CPUs only support [1] HDMI 1.4 which means you can't output anything at 4K @ 60 Hz. They could have used an LS-Pcon to convert DP 1.2 into HDMI 2.0, but that's not ideal. Personally I think Apple made the right decision by dropping the HDMI port since the Thunderbolt 3 ports are far more flexible. [1] http://www.anandtech.com/show/9483/intel-skylake-review-6700k-6600k-ddr4-ddr3-ipc-6th-generation/4 http://www.anandtech.com/show/9483/intel-skylake-review-6700...

by dewiz 10y ago

pmarreck 10y ago

No word on the invisibly-killed-off and yet so sexy Mac Pro, I guess :P

sparky_ 10y ago
But can it run Desert Combat? :)
- pmarreck 10y ago
  HEY! YOU! ;) What's up? Playing Overwatch these days, at least until I can actually play Battlefield 1 (waiting on some cash for new hardware)

andromeduck 10y ago

Yeah I've really yet to see a credible iTerm 2 like alternative on W10 even if WSL works out.

Eridrus 10y ago
Assuming WSL works out, what do you find lacking?

dbg31415 10y ago

Mostly agree, but MagSafe was amazing and USB is what everyone in the world uses... we will just have to get a hub... it's not like when they killed floppies or CDs or Ethernet Ports and I hadn't used those in years anyway... This stings. I still like HDMI... literally all the ports on my 2013 MBP I think are perfect. Except the card reader... that's dumb and can go away. Ugh, I don't care about plugging in dual 5k monitors, I use my laptop monitor when I use my laptop -- I only care about HDMI for conference room sharing since everyone has that. I'm sure in a year I won't care once I buy a hub and new adapters... I apppreviate pushing the envelope but I like more "standard things" like USB and HDMI.

arthurfm 10y ago
Perhaps the reason Apple didn't include an HDMI port is because Skylake CPUs only support [1] HDMI 1.4 which means you can't output anything at 4K @ 60 Hz. They could have used an LS-Pcon to convert DP 1.2 into HDMI 2.0, but that's not ideal. Personally I think Apple made the right decision by dropping the HDMI port since the Thunderbolt 3 ports are far more flexible. [1] http://www.anandtech.com/show/9483/intel-skylake-review-6700k-6600k-ddr4-ddr3-ipc-6th-generation/4 http://www.anandtech.com/show/9483/intel-skylake-review-6700...