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Except that you still don't know which generation of processor the MBP has- I still see tons of deceptive Craigslist ads for MBPs that have a "2.0Ghz" processor
by ch4ch4 10y ago
Except that you still don't know which generation of processor the MBP has- I still see tons of deceptive Craigslist ads for MBPs that have a "2.0Ghz" processor, with no indication that it's a model from 2011, which is not at all comparable with a "2.0Ghz" processor from 2015.
- semi-extrinsic 10y agoSame goes for NVMe vs. SATA 256 GB SSD, or the 13" 1280x720 TN panel LCD on an 8 year old laptop versus a 13" 4K IPS display today.
- hyperbovine 10y agoWhat are you doing that you would even notice? Honest question. I can't recall a single instance where my 2012 rMBP slowed down due to its age. I mainly code, open tons of browser tabs, and listen to Spotify. Once I got a laptop with built-in SSD, everything just seemed to run at the speed of thought. That has not changed in four years or three operating systems.
- Roritharr 10y agoNot everyone is a webdeveloper that has to link some pngs into some text file and MAYBE batch process some images. There's people with heavy workloads who notice. I really don't understand that attitude. "Because I don't need it, nobody would need it."
- exclusiv 10y agoYou know the vast majority of consumers need less resources than a developer though. So what's with the "because I need it, everyone would need it" attitude?
- zeveb 10y ago> So what's with the "because I need it, everyone would need it" attitude? The problem with Apple (well, a problem with Apple; they've more than one) is that if you need more then you are completely and totally out of luck. So it becomes 'since not enough people need it, I can't have it.'
- jasoncchild 10y agoThis is true, and an obvious business decision. I assume if they offered more options (CPU, ram, etc) consumers would certainly buy them. I also assume that each permutation of the product will compound the logistics around manufacturing, marketing and so on.
- TheCoelacanth 10y agoThe vast majority of consumers don't buy a high-end laptop like a rMBP.
- hyperbovine 10y agoI do compute heavy stuff but from time to time but it's the sort of thing that would slow down the new chips just as easily as the old. But on average, a laptop from four years ago handles everything I can throw at it easily. If you purchased computer hardware at any point during the 90s or early 2000s, that's amazing.
- Roritharr 10y agoI sometimes render video. I've seen more than 4 times increase in rendering times Jumping from my 2012 highend XPS to a late 2015 XPS. That means i can render the same video 8 times a day instead of two times. This gives me more correction options and its feasible to just Play around more with Codec settings... So many people here Talk like Moores law suddenly stopped at all in the early 2010s...
- EpicEng 10y agoWhat kind of code? I live in C and C++. Processor speed matters when compiling. Of course it doesn't matter if you're writing e.g. js...
- rifung 10y agoNot sure why you're being downvoted for asking a question.. I care about CPU performance for compiling large projects. If I ever end up having time outside of work, I would like to try my hand at GHC development. I have made an attempt at it in the past and builds could take hours on my 2011 MBP. I don't use an IDE by choice but back when I had to use Android Studio, I definitely would have appreciated a faster CPU as well. I'm not sure if this is still an issue. Even if you aren't doing anything CPU intensive, I think it's nice to know just because you want to know what you're paying for.
- Too 10y agoA 2012 CPU is very different from 2016. Power efficiency in particular but also features, like wireless display, do they even have USB 3.0?
- slantyyz 10y agoThis is probably offtopic, but I hate, hate, hate Intel's CPU naming strategy for the Core i line. An i7 (U,M) in an ultrabook is vastly different from the i7 (MQ, HQ) in a gaming laptop. A lot of people don't realize that, they just assume that i7 means "fastest intel processor". It also doesn't help when computer manufacturers say "#th generation Intel processor". Unless you're keeping up with that stuff, how does a consumer buying a computer even make sense of that stuff?
- sliken 10y agoWhat's worse is that even if you know the exact CPU and it's performance intel has a new program to arbitrarily throttle CPUs to fit a particular power/cooling envelope. So vendors can cheap out on cooling, cripple the cpu, and there's no way to tell until you buy it and check yourself.
- gogopuppygogo 10y agoI agree. The intel naming convention has sucked since they switched to the Core iX names a few years back. Why are they still selling Core i5 computers in 2016 when they were available in 2012? It's like they don't want consumers to know there is a new processor out. No wonder PC sales are so bad these days.
- BatFastard 10y agoBecause i5 and i7 processors are exactly the same silicon. It's just for i7 they turn on hyper-threading.
- Chyzwar 10y ago2xxx,3xxx,4xxx,5xxx,6xxx,7xxx I do not see a problem with this naming convention. Each generation have code name like Caby Lake etc.. but also corresponding number. You know that if computer have i7 6700 it is roughly 5-15% faster than previous generation i7 5700. Just because Apple tend to hide this detail it is not Intel to blame.
- slantyyz 10y ago