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I think Apple should have followed one of the important mantras in the startup space: Talk to your users. Everyone who owns an MacBook most likely has an app

by tmaly 10y ago

I think Apple should have followed one of the important mantras in the startup space: Talk to your users. Everyone who owns an MacBook most likely has an apple account with an email. They could have conducted customer development surveys to get a better idea of what features users like the most or use the most.

jld 10y ago
They do, though who knows much it alters the course of the ship. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12504685 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12504685
dasil003 10y ago
Nah, Apple doesn't have to talk to their users. All the feedback they could possibly want is already out there in blog/podcast/twitter form. Their problem is that strategically they underestimate the importance of influencers and power users. Being the market leader makes a company think they just have to satisfy the masses, and they lose the train that in order to satisfy the masses they need to have the best apps, and to have the best apps they need to have developers, and to have developers they need to satisfy power user needs. Apple is at a dangerous juncture right now. They're still holding on to people like me simply because of the shittiness of Windows and Linux overall experience, but once I actually make the jump and sort out the little annoyances and get my workflow set, I'll probably never come back to Mac/iOS. The ecosystem is sticky, but it won't attract new developers the way it's going.
- slantyyz 10y ago
  >> the shittiness of Windows and Linux I made the switch to Windows, and while it doesn't have the same polish as OSX in many areas, it's pretty good. Even with my OSX muscle memory, it only took a few days to get used to some of the unfamiliar new stuff (to the point where using OSX now feels a little foreign to me). There are things in Windows I hate, but there were things in OSX that I hated too. If you use Windows 10 without too many preconceived notions, it's actually pretty good. It's definitely way better than XP, which was the last Windows OS I used prior to switching to Mac. I don't get many crashes etc., and my workflow is pretty much the same as it was on Mac. I use Cmder as my Terminal replacement, but at some point, I'll use that new Linux stuff they built into the Anniversary Edition of Windows 10.
  - addicted 10y ago
    I like Windows 10 and have been using it regularly for a few months with no problems at all. I recently used an old laptop which still had Windows 8 installed (maybe 8.1?) and that device was nearly unusable. What a disaster. Constraining the entire Desktop to an app may have been the worst decision I have ever seen in a tech product.
    - slantyyz 10y ago
      8 was pretty bad. 8.1 was a lot better.

by tmaly 10y ago

jld 10y ago

They do, though who knows much it alters the course of the ship. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12504685 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12504685

dasil003 10y ago

Nah, Apple doesn't have to talk to their users. All the feedback they could possibly want is already out there in blog/podcast/twitter form. Their problem is that strategically they underestimate the importance of influencers and power users. Being the market leader makes a company think they just have to satisfy the masses, and they lose the train that in order to satisfy the masses they need to have the best apps, and to have the best apps they need to have developers, and to have developers they need to satisfy power user needs. Apple is at a dangerous juncture right now. They're still holding on to people like me simply because of the shittiness of Windows and Linux overall experience, but once I actually make the jump and sort out the little annoyances and get my workflow set, I'll probably never come back to Mac/iOS. The ecosystem is sticky, but it won't attract new developers the way it's going.

slantyyz 10y ago
>> the shittiness of Windows and Linux I made the switch to Windows, and while it doesn't have the same polish as OSX in many areas, it's pretty good. Even with my OSX muscle memory, it only took a few days to get used to some of the unfamiliar new stuff (to the point where using OSX now feels a little foreign to me). There are things in Windows I hate, but there were things in OSX that I hated too. If you use Windows 10 without too many preconceived notions, it's actually pretty good. It's definitely way better than XP, which was the last Windows OS I used prior to switching to Mac. I don't get many crashes etc., and my workflow is pretty much the same as it was on Mac. I use Cmder as my Terminal replacement, but at some point, I'll use that new Linux stuff they built into the Anniversary Edition of Windows 10.
- addicted 10y ago
  I like Windows 10 and have been using it regularly for a few months with no problems at all. I recently used an old laptop which still had Windows 8 installed (maybe 8.1?) and that device was nearly unusable. What a disaster. Constraining the entire Desktop to an app may have been the worst decision I have ever seen in a tech product.
  - slantyyz 10y ago
    8 was pretty bad. 8.1 was a lot better.