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http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Avoid_the_escape_key http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Avoid_the_escape_key

by boardwaalk 10y ago

blowski 10y ago
My laptop should work the way I want it to, not the other way around.
- lucisferre 10y ago
  Then just map Esc to Caps Lock if you like. Unless you feel Caps Lock is still critical for commenting on YouTube videos, in that case I guess the new MBP is just a useless paperweight.
  - blowski 10y ago
    Nope - at the moment, my CAPS lock does nothing. But I'm not going to adjust my habit of where to find the ESC key just so I can have some pointless colourful lights.
    - comex 10y ago
      Instead you could adjust your habit of where to find the ESC key for the sake of ergonomics (Caps Lock is much bigger and closer), like I did years ago, and take the colorful lights as a bonus.
      - blowski 10y ago
        What about the fact that I frequently jump between machines, many of which aren't mine? It's the same as people telling me to learn the Dvorak layout. Any possible productivity gains are lost in forever remembering what keyboard I'm on.
  - EugeneOZ 10y ago
    It will not remap his muscle memory.
    - palunon 10y ago
      If it's a key you use frequently, and no longer have the other option, muscle memory isn't that hard to retrain.
      - EugeneOZ 10y ago
        You're wrong. Muscle memory is very hard to retrain. To buy laptop with esc button is much more easy. It will be just not MacBook Pro, but it's their problems.
        marrs 10y ago
        You're wrong? Muscle memory is not that hard to retrain. I had to do it when I first started using a Mac, on which most of the non-qwerty keys (and some of the qwerty ones too) are in a different location to the standard IBM layout.
- patricius 10y ago
  But any laptop you buy is a product of some design chosen by other people and not something you can make work precisely as you want. You've adapted to the designs already available, not the other way around.
  - blowski 10y ago
    I realise that, but I'm mostly adapted either to common standards (like QWERTY) or something that provides a benefit to me. I would like a laptop that fits the habits I already have as much as possible, unless there is some good reason for it not to be that way. From the demos I've seen of the touch bar, it will be a gimmick that I very rarely use, so why should I invest in the change? Also, I work about 50/50 from a USB keyboard. With this keyboard layout, I would need to remember which keyboard I'm using - awful for productivity.
- geofft 10y ago
  Yes! I can't believe no one will sell me a laptop with the ESC key in the proper place for vi: http://vintagecomputer.ca/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/LSI-ADM3A-full-keyboard.jpg http://vintagecomputer.ca/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/LSI-ADM...
varunmved 10y ago
+1 I don't touch the escape key and I've used vim for quite some time.
nogbit 10y ago
By default, when in command-line mode CTRL[[ is the same as escape and when in insert mode CTRL[ is the same as escape.

http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Avoid_the_escape_key http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Avoid_the_escape_key

blowski 10y ago

My laptop should work the way I want it to, not the other way around.

lucisferre 10y ago
Then just map Esc to Caps Lock if you like. Unless you feel Caps Lock is still critical for commenting on YouTube videos, in that case I guess the new MBP is just a useless paperweight.
- blowski 10y ago
  Nope - at the moment, my CAPS lock does nothing. But I'm not going to adjust my habit of where to find the ESC key just so I can have some pointless colourful lights.
  - comex 10y ago
    Instead you could adjust your habit of where to find the ESC key for the sake of ergonomics (Caps Lock is much bigger and closer), like I did years ago, and take the colorful lights as a bonus.
    - blowski 10y ago
      What about the fact that I frequently jump between machines, many of which aren't mine? It's the same as people telling me to learn the Dvorak layout. Any possible productivity gains are lost in forever remembering what keyboard I'm on.
- EugeneOZ 10y ago
  It will not remap his muscle memory.
  - palunon 10y ago
    If it's a key you use frequently, and no longer have the other option, muscle memory isn't that hard to retrain.
    - EugeneOZ 10y ago
      You're wrong. Muscle memory is very hard to retrain. To buy laptop with esc button is much more easy. It will be just not MacBook Pro, but it's their problems.
      - marrs 10y ago
        You're wrong? Muscle memory is not that hard to retrain. I had to do it when I first started using a Mac, on which most of the non-qwerty keys (and some of the qwerty ones too) are in a different location to the standard IBM layout.
patricius 10y ago
But any laptop you buy is a product of some design chosen by other people and not something you can make work precisely as you want. You've adapted to the designs already available, not the other way around.
- blowski 10y ago
  I realise that, but I'm mostly adapted either to common standards (like QWERTY) or something that provides a benefit to me. I would like a laptop that fits the habits I already have as much as possible, unless there is some good reason for it not to be that way. From the demos I've seen of the touch bar, it will be a gimmick that I very rarely use, so why should I invest in the change? Also, I work about 50/50 from a USB keyboard. With this keyboard layout, I would need to remember which keyboard I'm using - awful for productivity.
geofft 10y ago
Yes! I can't believe no one will sell me a laptop with the ESC key in the proper place for vi: http://vintagecomputer.ca/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/LSI-ADM3A-full-keyboard.jpg http://vintagecomputer.ca/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/LSI-ADM...

varunmved 10y ago

+1 I don't touch the escape key and I've used vim for quite some time.

nogbit 10y ago

By default, when in command-line mode CTRL[[ is the same as escape and when in insert mode CTRL[ is the same as escape.