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their pricing across the board is just getting ridiculous This is not really about Apple pricing, since the prices went up by up to 20% for many existing Apple

their pricing across the board is just getting ridiculous This is not really about Apple pricing, since the prices went up by up to 20% for many existing Apple products. This is the result of the post-Brexit vote and its effect on the exchange rate of the pound sterling. I guess the UK will see such price raises across the board. Of course, it's all good for the UK's export as long as they are still in the single market.

overcast 10y ago
By across the board, I meant in all countries. You're paying A LOT more for a Mac Book Pro now, for essentially nothing more than an incremental hardware update, a light bar, and less ports.
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- danieldk 10y ago
  The MacBook Pro 13" without Touch Bar is still the same price as the MacBook Pro 13" was when it was introduced in 2012. Still, it is much lighter, flatter, and has a modern CPU, GPU, SSD, a better screen, etc. Anyway, my point was that it is weird to complain about Apple prices as a reaction to an article that points out that prices for tech is increasing in the UK as a result of the Brexit.
  - overcast 10y ago
    Not strange at all, the Apple presentation was yesterday. Everyone is still discussing the new lineup as a whole, and it is directly related to this.
    - hellofunk 10y ago
      All your points here are simply false. You can buy a better MacBook today than 4 years ago but for the same price in US Dollars as four years ago.
      - overcast 10y ago
        Clearly there is some merit to this discussion, as it's reached the top of this thread, and every single news outlet is saying the same thing. People are upset about this "update". The Mac Pro desktop is dead, the laptops take years to get any meaningful upgrades, and Apple only cares about their mobile offerings at this point. The laptop from four years ago was a better value, than what you get comparatively today.
        hellofunk 10y ago
        You are responding to one point about price, which I have addressed, with another point entirely. You are not making any coherent sense.
      - toyg 10y ago
        > You can buy a better MacBook today than 4 years ago Only slightly better (or even worse, at the low end, because of the low-power CPU probably getting throttled more)... but really the point is that 4 years ago there was nothing like the MBPR on the market, similar to when they launched the Air. Today, there actually are alternatives with better specs in similar dimensions, and they are much more reasonably priced.
  - mtanski 10y ago
    In the past two months I've been seeing a lot more articles about the outrage about price increases in the U.K due to new FX reality post Brexit. I'm always surprised when people in the U.K pretend like this came as a surprise and they are outraged. Like... am... guys... you did it to yourselves. Cheers.
    - tonylemesmer 10y ago
      hmm. Some of us didn't ask for it.
    - thenomad 10y ago
      Surprised? No. Pissed off? Yes. Did it to myself? Not so much. 48% of us didn't, in fact. (And it's reasonable to assume that some of the remaining 52% didn't specifically vote for "hardest Brexit reasonably possible, please, we don't care about the economy." )
    - hashmp 10y ago
      I've not met anyone who voted to leave the EU complaining. We were all aware there would be short term pain for long term gain. Most of the moaning comes from people who wanted to remain. The £ was overvalued, this will bring a huge boost to our export industry.
      - pmontra 10y ago
        I was under the impression that the UK didn't have almost any manufacturing industry left, only services. I googled and found that I was wrong http://atlas.media.mit.edu/en/profile/country/gbr/ http://atlas.media.mit.edu/en/profile/country/gbr/ However the trade balance is negative. A weak pound won't help the industries that import raw material. I won't bet that it's going to be good.
        hashmp 10y ago
        Yes the trade balance at the moment is negative, which is why we need the £ to fall in value, so we can export more and reduce the trade deficit. Germany loves the Euro for the same reason, it artificially lowers its exchange rate helping it's exports. With the Deutschmark they would be at a significant disadvantage. Remember they were the "sick man of Europe" prior to joining the Euro. This is at the expense of countries on the periphery of the EU, Greece, Italy etc. They cannot devalue and complete with Germany. Despite this look how Germany treated Greece when it needed help.
  - emp_zealoth 10y ago
    If by modern you mean last gen...
HalfwayToDice 10y ago
"This is the result of the post-Brexit vote" This is nonsense; the pricing of the Macbook Pro rose in every country. Not everything has to be shoehorned into your personal politic viewframe.
- TorKlingberg 10y ago
  > This is nonsense; the pricing of the Macbook Pro rose in every country. You have said this in 9 different comments in this thread without providing a source.
  - ascorbic 10y ago
    This news isn't about the MBP anyway. Existing models have increased in price by 20% since last week.
mtgx 10y ago
Yup. Microsoft just increased them by 22%. I guess pretty much all tech companies will do that in the UK soon - or just leave altogether. https://www.engadget.com/2016/10/24/microsoft-price-increase-2017/ https://www.engadget.com/2016/10/24/microsoft-price-increase...
elcct 10y ago
This is not the result of the post-Brexit vote. It is just convenient event to excuse greed.
- Veen 10y ago
  It's a little of both. It's a simple fact that the pound has plummeted against the dollar. You can claim that has nothing to do with Brexit, but it would be quite a coincidence. Not that I'm complaining really. I'm a UK citizen but I work remotely for an American company and get paid in dollars. My income has actually increased by a nice amount because of Brexit. I get more pounds for my dollars than I used to. That's not going to help me buy a new Macbook though, because Apple have raised prices to compensate.
  - elcct 10y ago
    > It's a simple fact that the pound has plummeted against the dollar. Again, that's market makers want to make money using event as an excuse
    - Veen 10y ago
      Yeah, it's a well know fact that currency traders like to sell currencies they think will rise in value, and buy currencies that won't. Thereby creating the current situation where the pound, which would otherwise have rocketed in value post-Brexit vote, in fact goes down the crapper.

overcast 10y ago

By across the board, I meant in all countries. You're paying A LOT more for a Mac Book Pro now, for essentially nothing more than an incremental hardware update, a light bar, and less ports.

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danieldk 10y ago
The MacBook Pro 13" without Touch Bar is still the same price as the MacBook Pro 13" was when it was introduced in 2012. Still, it is much lighter, flatter, and has a modern CPU, GPU, SSD, a better screen, etc. Anyway, my point was that it is weird to complain about Apple prices as a reaction to an article that points out that prices for tech is increasing in the UK as a result of the Brexit.
- overcast 10y ago
  Not strange at all, the Apple presentation was yesterday. Everyone is still discussing the new lineup as a whole, and it is directly related to this.
  - hellofunk 10y ago
    All your points here are simply false. You can buy a better MacBook today than 4 years ago but for the same price in US Dollars as four years ago.
    - overcast 10y ago
      Clearly there is some merit to this discussion, as it's reached the top of this thread, and every single news outlet is saying the same thing. People are upset about this "update". The Mac Pro desktop is dead, the laptops take years to get any meaningful upgrades, and Apple only cares about their mobile offerings at this point. The laptop from four years ago was a better value, than what you get comparatively today.
      - hellofunk 10y ago
        You are responding to one point about price, which I have addressed, with another point entirely. You are not making any coherent sense.
    - toyg 10y ago
      > You can buy a better MacBook today than 4 years ago Only slightly better (or even worse, at the low end, because of the low-power CPU probably getting throttled more)... but really the point is that 4 years ago there was nothing like the MBPR on the market, similar to when they launched the Air. Today, there actually are alternatives with better specs in similar dimensions, and they are much more reasonably priced.
- mtanski 10y ago
  In the past two months I've been seeing a lot more articles about the outrage about price increases in the U.K due to new FX reality post Brexit. I'm always surprised when people in the U.K pretend like this came as a surprise and they are outraged. Like... am... guys... you did it to yourselves. Cheers.
  - tonylemesmer 10y ago
    hmm. Some of us didn't ask for it.
  - thenomad 10y ago
    Surprised? No. Pissed off? Yes. Did it to myself? Not so much. 48% of us didn't, in fact. (And it's reasonable to assume that some of the remaining 52% didn't specifically vote for "hardest Brexit reasonably possible, please, we don't care about the economy." )
  - hashmp 10y ago
    I've not met anyone who voted to leave the EU complaining. We were all aware there would be short term pain for long term gain. Most of the moaning comes from people who wanted to remain. The £ was overvalued, this will bring a huge boost to our export industry.
    - pmontra 10y ago
      I was under the impression that the UK didn't have almost any manufacturing industry left, only services. I googled and found that I was wrong http://atlas.media.mit.edu/en/profile/country/gbr/ http://atlas.media.mit.edu/en/profile/country/gbr/ However the trade balance is negative. A weak pound won't help the industries that import raw material. I won't bet that it's going to be good.
      - hashmp 10y ago
        Yes the trade balance at the moment is negative, which is why we need the £ to fall in value, so we can export more and reduce the trade deficit. Germany loves the Euro for the same reason, it artificially lowers its exchange rate helping it's exports. With the Deutschmark they would be at a significant disadvantage. Remember they were the "sick man of Europe" prior to joining the Euro. This is at the expense of countries on the periphery of the EU, Greece, Italy etc. They cannot devalue and complete with Germany. Despite this look how Germany treated Greece when it needed help.
- emp_zealoth 10y ago
  If by modern you mean last gen...

HalfwayToDice 10y ago

"This is the result of the post-Brexit vote" This is nonsense; the pricing of the Macbook Pro rose in every country. Not everything has to be shoehorned into your personal politic viewframe.

TorKlingberg 10y ago
> This is nonsense; the pricing of the Macbook Pro rose in every country. You have said this in 9 different comments in this thread without providing a source.
- ascorbic 10y ago
  This news isn't about the MBP anyway. Existing models have increased in price by 20% since last week.

mtgx 10y ago

Yup. Microsoft just increased them by 22%. I guess pretty much all tech companies will do that in the UK soon - or just leave altogether. https://www.engadget.com/2016/10/24/microsoft-price-increase-2017/ https://www.engadget.com/2016/10/24/microsoft-price-increase...

elcct 10y ago

This is not the result of the post-Brexit vote. It is just convenient event to excuse greed.

Veen 10y ago
It's a little of both. It's a simple fact that the pound has plummeted against the dollar. You can claim that has nothing to do with Brexit, but it would be quite a coincidence. Not that I'm complaining really. I'm a UK citizen but I work remotely for an American company and get paid in dollars. My income has actually increased by a nice amount because of Brexit. I get more pounds for my dollars than I used to. That's not going to help me buy a new Macbook though, because Apple have raised prices to compensate.
- elcct 10y ago
  > It's a simple fact that the pound has plummeted against the dollar. Again, that's market makers want to make money using event as an excuse
  - Veen 10y ago
    Yeah, it's a well know fact that currency traders like to sell currencies they think will rise in value, and buy currencies that won't. Thereby creating the current situation where the pound, which would otherwise have rocketed in value post-Brexit vote, in fact goes down the crapper.