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Using the top range 15" MBP at default specs: IE - EUR 3,299.00 = 3602.39 USD DK - DKK 24.599,00 = 3593.48 PL - PLN 13,899.0 = 3501.63 USD DE - EUR 3.199,00

Using the top range 15" MBP at default specs: IE - EUR 3,299.00 = 3602.39 USD DK - DKK 24.599,00 = 3593.48 PL - PLN 13,899.0 = 3501.63 USD DE - EUR 3.199,00 = 3493.20 USD FR - EUR 3.199,00 = 3493.20 USD SE - SEK 31495 = 3488.44 USD NZ - NZD 4,699.00 = 3352.01 USD GB - GBP 2,699.00 = 3270.46 USD AU - AUD 4,249.00 = 3217.66 USD CH - CHF 3,149.00 = 3167.53 USD CN - RMB 21,488 = 3167.59 USD JP - JPY 278800 = 2646.14 USD CA - CAD 3,499.00 = 2613.99 USD US Price - 2,799.00 USD. Interesting: - Best price is in Canada - Ireland has the most expensive in the single market - Cheapest in the EU still is in the UK (don't complain guys) - Cheapest in the single market in Switzerland.

bergie 10y ago
Note that European prices usually include VAT (sales tax), while in US it is usually added on top of the price.
- yoz-y 10y ago
  Yes, but when you go through the checkout process and estimate the tax, then the 15" MacBook Pro still costs only $3050 compared to 3200€ ($3400). It is still quite more expensive in EU, even including the taxes.
  - TheCoelacanth 10y ago
    EU tax rates are much higher, though. Going the opposite way, in France the price is $2911 before taxes, or only 4% higher than the US price. I would guess that the small remaining difference is due to the recent strong performance of the dollar.
    - vetinari 10y ago
      The EU tax rates are not that high, though, as is the difference in prices. There was such a difference even in years, when EUR performed way better than USD.
phlo 10y ago
VAT is already factored into EU prices. Germany and France charge 19% and 20%, respectively -- Ireland charges 23%, which explains a difference of roughly $100. Switzerland has a lower VAT rate of 8%, so the lower price compared to EU countries is understandable.
- neximo64 10y ago
  UK VAT is also 20%. So its not sales tax alone deciding prices.
- vetinari 10y ago
  Yet the difference is still higher that VAT: 2800 * 1,23 = 3444, which still makes some 158 USD difference. Not that it would be something new: during times when 1 EUR was more than 1,3 USD, the European prices were higher than or at least equal numerically to USD prices. And before someone mentions 2 year mandatory warranty in EU: 1) you won't get it as a business, only as an end user, yet you will pay the same and 2) only some EU countries get Apple Stores and Apple support. In all the other countries you get your service through contract service centers that have to wait for everything for Apple, which means that the usual service time is ~30 days.
freeman478 10y ago
Be aware that in some countries the sticker price is including VAT/Sales Tax which I think is not the case in the US.
- vlozko 10y ago
  That's why some of us go to New Hampshire to buy our expensive stuff.
CodeGenie 10y ago
AFAIK, the Irish price difference is due to VAT charged at 23% as opposed to 19% & 20% for DE & FR. The Ex VAT prices are: IE - €2682 DE - €2688 FR - €2665 Poland also charge VAT @ 23%. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_value_added_tax#VAT_rates https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_value_added_tax...
emdowling 10y ago
Not included is the price for the UAE: AED 11,099.00 = 3022.11 USD. No tax in UAE and Dubai is such a transit hub that its a pretty good saving if you are going to be passing through soon.
- neximo64 10y ago
  I might consider that myself given lots of flights go through there and i have a trip soon. Do they sell with keyboards where the '@' is on the 2?
  - vetinari 10y ago
    Also check the power plug the power adapter comes with.
- smcl 10y ago
  Are the airport prices similar to the Apple Store prices? I would've thought they'd have a bit of a markup, it was relatively pricey for most things when I was there ~5 years ago
Keyframe 10y ago
HR - HRK 23,179.00 = 3089.64 EURO = 3369.51 USD 15" top line with defaults in Croatia. "Can't wait" to see prices of new one with OLED bar. I think my next laptop isn't going to be from Apple. It doesn't make sense. Even Macbook is ~2K Euros/$2200.
luisrudge 10y ago
Price in Brazil: R$21.299, which is the same as $6697,80
lorenzhs 10y ago
Different European countries have different VAT rates. Ireland's is 23%, Germany's 19%, and Switzerland's 8%. The price without VAT is about equal in all three, $2930 (± $6). That's still $130 more than the US price. Can anyone recall how large this gap has been historically?
- ksec 10y ago
  I have the same figure as well, as If Apple uses certain fix formula to decide on EU price. But it makes it continue to wonder what make the actual EU price $130 higher. While it is only 5% difference, $130 is still quite a lot.
anexprogrammer 10y ago
That's quite a bit more variation than I'd have expected. Almost takes us back to the 90s where it was worth an occasional trip to the US for shopping!
chongli 10y ago
For the Canadian price you need to add HST (depending on the province).
chvid 10y ago
This is the relevant chart. The fact is that the U.K. Is pretty cheap and probably will face some inflation if the low pound price persists. For many the vat / sales tax is a deductible otherwise go to Japan where you will get the sales tax immediately back at purchase upon showing your passport. :-)
apricot 10y ago
> Best price is in Canada Huh. That's not something you read every day.

bergie 10y ago

Note that European prices usually include VAT (sales tax), while in US it is usually added on top of the price.

yoz-y 10y ago
Yes, but when you go through the checkout process and estimate the tax, then the 15" MacBook Pro still costs only $3050 compared to 3200€ ($3400). It is still quite more expensive in EU, even including the taxes.
- TheCoelacanth 10y ago
  EU tax rates are much higher, though. Going the opposite way, in France the price is $2911 before taxes, or only 4% higher than the US price. I would guess that the small remaining difference is due to the recent strong performance of the dollar.
  - vetinari 10y ago
    The EU tax rates are not that high, though, as is the difference in prices. There was such a difference even in years, when EUR performed way better than USD.

phlo 10y ago

VAT is already factored into EU prices. Germany and France charge 19% and 20%, respectively -- Ireland charges 23%, which explains a difference of roughly $100. Switzerland has a lower VAT rate of 8%, so the lower price compared to EU countries is understandable.

neximo64 10y ago
UK VAT is also 20%. So its not sales tax alone deciding prices.
vetinari 10y ago
Yet the difference is still higher that VAT: 2800 * 1,23 = 3444, which still makes some 158 USD difference. Not that it would be something new: during times when 1 EUR was more than 1,3 USD, the European prices were higher than or at least equal numerically to USD prices. And before someone mentions 2 year mandatory warranty in EU: 1) you won't get it as a business, only as an end user, yet you will pay the same and 2) only some EU countries get Apple Stores and Apple support. In all the other countries you get your service through contract service centers that have to wait for everything for Apple, which means that the usual service time is ~30 days.

freeman478 10y ago

Be aware that in some countries the sticker price is including VAT/Sales Tax which I think is not the case in the US.

vlozko 10y ago
That's why some of us go to New Hampshire to buy our expensive stuff.

CodeGenie 10y ago

AFAIK, the Irish price difference is due to VAT charged at 23% as opposed to 19% & 20% for DE & FR. The Ex VAT prices are: IE - €2682 DE - €2688 FR - €2665 Poland also charge VAT @ 23%. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_value_added_tax#VAT_rates https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_value_added_tax...

emdowling 10y ago

Not included is the price for the UAE: AED 11,099.00 = 3022.11 USD. No tax in UAE and Dubai is such a transit hub that its a pretty good saving if you are going to be passing through soon.

neximo64 10y ago
I might consider that myself given lots of flights go through there and i have a trip soon. Do they sell with keyboards where the '@' is on the 2?
- vetinari 10y ago
  Also check the power plug the power adapter comes with.
smcl 10y ago
Are the airport prices similar to the Apple Store prices? I would've thought they'd have a bit of a markup, it was relatively pricey for most things when I was there ~5 years ago

Keyframe 10y ago

HR - HRK 23,179.00 = 3089.64 EURO = 3369.51 USD 15" top line with defaults in Croatia. "Can't wait" to see prices of new one with OLED bar. I think my next laptop isn't going to be from Apple. It doesn't make sense. Even Macbook is ~2K Euros/$2200.

luisrudge 10y ago

Price in Brazil: R$21.299, which is the same as $6697,80

lorenzhs 10y ago

Different European countries have different VAT rates. Ireland's is 23%, Germany's 19%, and Switzerland's 8%. The price without VAT is about equal in all three, $2930 (± $6). That's still $130 more than the US price. Can anyone recall how large this gap has been historically?

ksec 10y ago
I have the same figure as well, as If Apple uses certain fix formula to decide on EU price. But it makes it continue to wonder what make the actual EU price $130 higher. While it is only 5% difference, $130 is still quite a lot.

anexprogrammer 10y ago

That's quite a bit more variation than I'd have expected. Almost takes us back to the 90s where it was worth an occasional trip to the US for shopping!

chongli 10y ago

For the Canadian price you need to add HST (depending on the province).

chvid 10y ago

This is the relevant chart. The fact is that the U.K. Is pretty cheap and probably will face some inflation if the low pound price persists. For many the vat / sales tax is a deductible otherwise go to Japan where you will get the sales tax immediately back at purchase upon showing your passport. :-)

apricot 10y ago

> Best price is in Canada Huh. That's not something you read every day.