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I don't think it's quite as generic as you portray. Rome was truly in a class of its own. Brutal violence characterized most ancient societies, and wars were wi
by hodgesrm 10y ago
I don't think it's quite as generic as you portray. Rome was truly in a class of its own. Brutal violence characterized most ancient societies, and wars were winner-take-all affairs. Yet Rome had a top-to-bottom, win-at-any-cost militarization of society that set it apart from all but a few states like Macedon and Sparta. Romans who surrendered rather than dying in battle were often ostracized, as happened after Cannae. Roman armies were also capable of genocidal cruelty towards enemies, as demonstrated in the conquest of Gaul. The city won dominion of the Mediterranean through brutally efficient armies as well as a willingness to shrug off terrible losses. It's not surprising to see the same attitudes permeating civilian life.
The closest European parallel seems to be Prussia, especially from the time of Frederic the Great onwards. It is the most complete example of the nation in arms I can think of. Yet even they lacked the casual brutality of the Romans.
- hackuser 10y agoI think you'd be interested in this: http://laphamsquarterly.org/states-war http://laphamsquarterly.org/states-war It's an amazing collection of documents on war, across history and cultures, from Homer to the US invasion of Iraq, written by everyone from participants to victims to experts to scholars to poets. After reading it, my strong impression that was that Rome was brutal, but so has been almost everyone else.
- hodgesrm 10y agoThanks! That's a new one. War is brutal and you are right that at some level it's hard to make clear distinctions. The Romans were certainly very good at it.