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I absolutely, 100% do not want to extend my life. And for the record, I am quite pleased with my life. I do not fear death, I do not worry about it, it does not

I absolutely, 100% do not want to extend my life. And for the record, I am quite pleased with my life. I do not fear death, I do not worry about it, it does not concern me. Therefore I do not feel the need to combat it in any way. The good truly does not exist without the bad, life without death, and so on. Walking the path of "controlling" your life and/or death like this seems needy, egotistical, and pretty sad, imo.

JoeAltmaier 10y ago
So you plan to end it all tonight? No? I think, like everyone else, you expect a reasonable lifespan and would fight to achieve that. From there, its just a matter of how much is enough.
- Disruptive_Dave 10y ago
  I actually don't expect anything. I get what I get, that's all. Expectation is a problem, generally speaking. Actively killing myself is quite different from un-attaching myself to the concept of an expected X number of years on this earth.
  - JoeAltmaier 10y ago
    Well, to belabor the point, not walking out into traffic without looking is evidence of self-preserving instincts. Again from there its a matter of degree. Admittedly I am also of the school of 'be safe as long as it doesn't take too much mental stress'. I'll live as long as I live, given flu shots and careful driving. But I'm not going to obsess about it either.
farresito 10y ago
You are already extending your life by going to the doctor. What's the difference between that and an anti-aging therapy? How is that even controlling your death? You are going to die one day. It's a fact. How do you want to die? Would you rather die in the worst conditions possible, like it happens to most people nowadays? If you are happy about dying like that, you might as well stop going to the doctor. Fact is, even if you don't realize, we have been 'manipulating' death for a long time. I think what's egotistical is your comment, honestly. You are basically opposing to a therapy which would remove plenty of suffering from the world, starting with reducing the chances of cancer, removing Alzheimer, etc., yet you don't want to remove it because evolution decided that living indefinitely was not advantageous for human survivability, and so we should not touch that. Heck, what's the point of technology if not to improve our daily lives? Should we oppose to all technology?
Taek 10y ago
Surely you can respect though that other people feel differently though? Everybody has their own way of life.
- Disruptive_Dave 10y ago
  Of course, 100%. Just giving my personal take here.
sgift 10y ago
Let's talk again after you had the "great" experience of waiting in an ER for your end thanks to cancer, if you really do not fear death (or rather do not miss all the things you'd still want to do with your life).
- Disruptive_Dave 10y ago
  Ok, should I text you or something when that happens? You're taking a very black-and-white approach to what I said. I never stated that I wouldn't have the very natural and human urge to continue life or the feeling of missing out on what could have happened, should I find myself at death's door any time soon. What I said is that I try not to attach myself to those feelings. I see absolutely no value in letting a 100% factual eventuality concern my living, breathing moments in any way whatsoever. That doesn't mean I don't eat healthy or avoid obvious paths to an "early" death. It just means I do not think about it (fear, worry, regret, whatever), as this thinking wouldn't be fruitful for me. Is that not understandable, even if you don't agree with this way?

JoeAltmaier 10y ago

So you plan to end it all tonight? No? I think, like everyone else, you expect a reasonable lifespan and would fight to achieve that. From there, its just a matter of how much is enough.

Disruptive_Dave 10y ago
I actually don't expect anything. I get what I get, that's all. Expectation is a problem, generally speaking. Actively killing myself is quite different from un-attaching myself to the concept of an expected X number of years on this earth.
- JoeAltmaier 10y ago
  Well, to belabor the point, not walking out into traffic without looking is evidence of self-preserving instincts. Again from there its a matter of degree. Admittedly I am also of the school of 'be safe as long as it doesn't take too much mental stress'. I'll live as long as I live, given flu shots and careful driving. But I'm not going to obsess about it either.

farresito 10y ago

You are already extending your life by going to the doctor. What's the difference between that and an anti-aging therapy? How is that even controlling your death? You are going to die one day. It's a fact. How do you want to die? Would you rather die in the worst conditions possible, like it happens to most people nowadays? If you are happy about dying like that, you might as well stop going to the doctor. Fact is, even if you don't realize, we have been 'manipulating' death for a long time. I think what's egotistical is your comment, honestly. You are basically opposing to a therapy which would remove plenty of suffering from the world, starting with reducing the chances of cancer, removing Alzheimer, etc., yet you don't want to remove it because evolution decided that living indefinitely was not advantageous for human survivability, and so we should not touch that. Heck, what's the point of technology if not to improve our daily lives? Should we oppose to all technology?

Taek 10y ago

Surely you can respect though that other people feel differently though? Everybody has their own way of life.

Disruptive_Dave 10y ago
Of course, 100%. Just giving my personal take here.

sgift 10y ago

Let's talk again after you had the "great" experience of waiting in an ER for your end thanks to cancer, if you really do not fear death (or rather do not miss all the things you'd still want to do with your life).

Disruptive_Dave 10y ago
Ok, should I text you or something when that happens? You're taking a very black-and-white approach to what I said. I never stated that I wouldn't have the very natural and human urge to continue life or the feeling of missing out on what could have happened, should I find myself at death's door any time soon. What I said is that I try not to attach myself to those feelings. I see absolutely no value in letting a 100% factual eventuality concern my living, breathing moments in any way whatsoever. That doesn't mean I don't eat healthy or avoid obvious paths to an "early" death. It just means I do not think about it (fear, worry, regret, whatever), as this thinking wouldn't be fruitful for me. Is that not understandable, even if you don't agree with this way?