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Because the inferior ports are used by almost everyone? If I just want to plug my laptop into a projector it doesn't matter that I have a technically superior p

by jonknee 10y ago

Because the inferior ports are used by almost everyone? If I just want to plug my laptop into a projector it doesn't matter that I have a technically superior port that I can't use. Imagine they added a couple USB-C ports in place of the little used Thunderbolt ports and then waited a year to see the usage frequency... I bet the HDMI and USB-A ports would be used a ton more than USB-C.

Nition 10y ago
I'm in no way defending Apple's decision here - I think having no standard USB ports is stupid - but this is kind of Apple's thing. Apple knows you'll use the standard ports if they give them to you. And that's exactly why they've taken them away. Because it forces users to actually make the switch to something (they think is) better.
- jonknee 10y ago
  I know this, but since they haven't fully committed themselves to USB-C yet so this move feels early. It's insane that you can't plug an iPhone into your brand new MacBook Pro without another trip to the store for a dongle (they aren't shipping a dongle in the MBP box).
  - Nition 10y ago
    Agreed, they could do with some more cohesiveness here.
  - kelseydh 10y ago
    Exactly. MacBook laptops have headphone jacks and USB-c connections but no lightning input ports. If I wanted to use my EarPods with the lightning end on my Macbook I'm screwed. Nor can I use the headphone jack or the USB-C ports on the Macbook with my iPhone. The lack of integration here between Apple's own products is alarming and indicates that a high level someone is asleep at the wheel.
    - TazeTSchnitzel 10y ago
      It's worrying. Apple didn't want to drop Lightning from the iPhone, because it would mean losing control over iOS accessories. But now their iOS and Mac products have incompatible connectors, which can't be easily fixed. I mean, they could go for USB-C on the iPhone 7S, but they just told everyone to switch to Lightning headphones. And Lightning, which is essentially a glorified USB 2.0 port, is a waste of space to add to the next MacBook. What a mess.
      - TazeTSchnitzel 10y ago
        One potential solution: ship iPhones with a Lightning-to-USB-C cable with a connected USB-C to USB Type-A adaptor in the box. This would please everyone, but it'd be expensive.

by jonknee 10y ago

Nition 10y ago

I'm in no way defending Apple's decision here - I think having no standard USB ports is stupid - but this is kind of Apple's thing. Apple knows you'll use the standard ports if they give them to you. And that's exactly why they've taken them away. Because it forces users to actually make the switch to something (they think is) better.

jonknee 10y ago
I know this, but since they haven't fully committed themselves to USB-C yet so this move feels early. It's insane that you can't plug an iPhone into your brand new MacBook Pro without another trip to the store for a dongle (they aren't shipping a dongle in the MBP box).
- Nition 10y ago
  Agreed, they could do with some more cohesiveness here.
- kelseydh 10y ago
  Exactly. MacBook laptops have headphone jacks and USB-c connections but no lightning input ports. If I wanted to use my EarPods with the lightning end on my Macbook I'm screwed. Nor can I use the headphone jack or the USB-C ports on the Macbook with my iPhone. The lack of integration here between Apple's own products is alarming and indicates that a high level someone is asleep at the wheel.
  - TazeTSchnitzel 10y ago
    It's worrying. Apple didn't want to drop Lightning from the iPhone, because it would mean losing control over iOS accessories. But now their iOS and Mac products have incompatible connectors, which can't be easily fixed. I mean, they could go for USB-C on the iPhone 7S, but they just told everyone to switch to Lightning headphones. And Lightning, which is essentially a glorified USB 2.0 port, is a waste of space to add to the next MacBook. What a mess.
    - TazeTSchnitzel 10y ago
      One potential solution: ship iPhones with a Lightning-to-USB-C cable with a connected USB-C to USB Type-A adaptor in the box. This would please everyone, but it'd be expensive.