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My instinct is that they are going to flood the early adopters market with low RAM laptops. Then silently introduce upgrade options something like a few months

by Kequc 10y ago

My instinct is that they are going to flood the early adopters market with low RAM laptops. Then silently introduce upgrade options something like a few months down the line. This serves the dual benefit of being able to pump them out faster and giving people a reason to buy more of them. It just seems like something Apple would do.

j45 10y ago
This is another great reason for serious power users to never buy the first generation of Apple equipment. Historically a quick refresh comes out, and it sometimes takes two gens to get it right. Glad right now I timed my last Macbook pro purchase to have a year of applecare left on it, and it could easily last me another 2 years thanks to being maxed out when I bought it. Apple is a company looking to maximize it profit as well as build good products. A lot of laptop manufacturers are starting to catch up on the hardware side (the new Zenbook).. it's just the MacOS experience that someone has left to create an equivalent to.
- toyg 10y ago
  "Starting"? Competitors have caught up. The current Dell XPS 15'' blows the just announced MBP out of the water: same cpu, 32gb ram, equivalent GPU, more ports (including TB3), similar weight and dimensions -- at 50% of the price! The Razer Blade is "only" 20% cheaper, but has a smoking GPU. The HP ZBook Ultrabook is again 20% cheaper, 32gb, etc etc etc. Apple dropped the ball, big time. I'll ride out my 2012 MBPr (which still works great), but at these conditions, my next laptop will not be from Cupertino.
  - j45 10y ago
    Have used windows primary for 15 years, and mac for the last 10.. I've seen the new windows laptops walk right past apple past few months, my rMBP is about 2 years old so I'm not feeling the pinch so much in buying outdated equipment... Even the new Lenovo T460p's are sliding by. Asus Zenbook is slick too. I am more of a 13" guy, although i've used the 15" MBP and windows laptop at one time. I'm hoping by the time my applecare is up they will throw a massive parade for doing the obvious hardware upgrades. One possible reason they haven't is getting performance and heat managed in the new slim form factor. Had a few macbooks that ran hot in the past, so I hope it's just that and not much else. It sucked having 15" macbook pros that had faulty video cards due to poor heat management and died prematurely.
Bud 10y ago
No, it doesn't, and there is no precedent for Apple doing this.
- Kequc 10y ago
  http://betanews.com/2011/10/24/sssh-apple-silently-upgrades-macbook-pros-ahead-of-intels-ivy-bridge/ http://betanews.com/2011/10/24/sssh-apple-silently-upgrades-... The first example I came across, they did it after 8 months in 2011. Maybe you're right, maybe the Macbook Pro is just a beefier Macbook now. They didn't even splurge on the most up to date Intel chips, but the price went up? This is so disappointing, after a long wait too.
  - robhu 10y ago
    I don't think there very small bumps to CPU clock speed in your example are in anyway comparable to the suggestion that they will introduce 32GB as an option or the default in a few months. So I don't think this is an example of what is being discussed.

by Kequc 10y ago

j45 10y ago

This is another great reason for serious power users to never buy the first generation of Apple equipment. Historically a quick refresh comes out, and it sometimes takes two gens to get it right. Glad right now I timed my last Macbook pro purchase to have a year of applecare left on it, and it could easily last me another 2 years thanks to being maxed out when I bought it. Apple is a company looking to maximize it profit as well as build good products. A lot of laptop manufacturers are starting to catch up on the hardware side (the new Zenbook).. it's just the MacOS experience that someone has left to create an equivalent to.

toyg 10y ago
"Starting"? Competitors have caught up. The current Dell XPS 15'' blows the just announced MBP out of the water: same cpu, 32gb ram, equivalent GPU, more ports (including TB3), similar weight and dimensions -- at 50% of the price! The Razer Blade is "only" 20% cheaper, but has a smoking GPU. The HP ZBook Ultrabook is again 20% cheaper, 32gb, etc etc etc. Apple dropped the ball, big time. I'll ride out my 2012 MBPr (which still works great), but at these conditions, my next laptop will not be from Cupertino.
- j45 10y ago
  Have used windows primary for 15 years, and mac for the last 10.. I've seen the new windows laptops walk right past apple past few months, my rMBP is about 2 years old so I'm not feeling the pinch so much in buying outdated equipment... Even the new Lenovo T460p's are sliding by. Asus Zenbook is slick too. I am more of a 13" guy, although i've used the 15" MBP and windows laptop at one time. I'm hoping by the time my applecare is up they will throw a massive parade for doing the obvious hardware upgrades. One possible reason they haven't is getting performance and heat managed in the new slim form factor. Had a few macbooks that ran hot in the past, so I hope it's just that and not much else. It sucked having 15" macbook pros that had faulty video cards due to poor heat management and died prematurely.

Bud 10y ago

No, it doesn't, and there is no precedent for Apple doing this.

Kequc 10y ago
http://betanews.com/2011/10/24/sssh-apple-silently-upgrades-macbook-pros-ahead-of-intels-ivy-bridge/ http://betanews.com/2011/10/24/sssh-apple-silently-upgrades-... The first example I came across, they did it after 8 months in 2011. Maybe you're right, maybe the Macbook Pro is just a beefier Macbook now. They didn't even splurge on the most up to date Intel chips, but the price went up? This is so disappointing, after a long wait too.
- robhu 10y ago
  I don't think there very small bumps to CPU clock speed in your example are in anyway comparable to the suggestion that they will introduce 32GB as an option or the default in a few months. So I don't think this is an example of what is being discussed.