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This does not seem like a major announcement to me. They added a bar and touch ID. But they added force touch with taptic engine last year and it took 3 minutes

by arihant 10y ago

This does not seem like a major announcement to me. They added a bar and touch ID. But they added force touch with taptic engine last year and it took 3 minutes to introduce. Between this and Surface with Bash built in, it's the first time since Windows 98 that I can see myself using a Windows computer. This machine is not pro, as in not for professionals. No self-respecting Musician, Artist, Writer, Programmer, Photographer, Sportsman, etc. can make their living on this. This is what you take to a coffee shop to check e-mail. Anything else requires a dongle. It doesn't "just work" if you need to plug in a series of cables first. That's how Windows laptops were handled. They needed drivers for anything meaningful, this needs dongles. I need a laptop to create. I don't need a laptop that competes with a notepad on thickness and usefulness. It was all Steve Jobs. All of it. When is 4mm thicker laptop less elegant than thinner laptop with 5 dongles? Only on paper.

phil21 10y ago
I agree with you here. Unfortunately I will still be buying one as I don't believe bash on windows is there yet. However it was a painful choice and if I hadn't dropped my old 2012 rMbP repeatedly I'd be holding out. I think in a year or two Windows is going to look far more compelling. So apple won me with software. For now. The hardware is a step back though that I'm disappointed in. I'm strongly considering simply purchasing the latest rMBP release and use it for another couple years to see if anything meets my requirements then. That's a bad sign if you're Apple with a willing customer wanting to give you money whose primary driver is not cost. I'm actually all for the move to USB-C, but that was enough. A HDMI port at a minimum is a requirement for a pro series laptop in today's business world. It's either resign myself to carrying a dongle around, or buy the older generation of hardware. Sounds trivial but it's the overhead of a mental tax that simply doesn't need to be there. I run Windows 10 at home and it's getting pretty stellar as far as UI and features like high DPI. It sounds like they are rapidly making inroads on battery life (if not already surpassing Apple - the reason I switched to OSX in 2012 to begin with) on the same hardware, and as soon as they get some competent software like a terminal emulator that doesn't suck (assuming the linux subsystem development push continues) Apple really loses it's moat for this market segment. As far as I can tell though in the past couple years - they just don't care. At this point the largest missing piece for me switching back to Windows is lack of a stellar terminal emulator. Everything I've tried so far on the desktop (@4k) still either annoys me for closed source reasons, or just does not look as good as iterm2 on the retina. It's a silly thing, but something I don't want to have to worry about. It's also an incredibly shallow moat.
- arihant 10y ago
  I did the same thing. I have a 2015 MBP, and I plan to hold it at least till AppleCare expires and then see how's the landscape is. Having the 2015 model, I don't feel at all left out with this release. I think I have a better laptop that this release. They are still selling it on their website. But I don't think it will be a just-buy-another-mac type of purchase when I'm out for my next machine.

by arihant 10y ago

phil21 10y ago

I agree with you here. Unfortunately I will still be buying one as I don't believe bash on windows is there yet. However it was a painful choice and if I hadn't dropped my old 2012 rMbP repeatedly I'd be holding out. I think in a year or two Windows is going to look far more compelling. So apple won me with software. For now. The hardware is a step back though that I'm disappointed in. I'm strongly considering simply purchasing the latest rMBP release and use it for another couple years to see if anything meets my requirements then. That's a bad sign if you're Apple with a willing customer wanting to give you money whose primary driver is not cost. I'm actually all for the move to USB-C, but that was enough. A HDMI port at a minimum is a requirement for a pro series laptop in today's business world. It's either resign myself to carrying a dongle around, or buy the older generation of hardware. Sounds trivial but it's the overhead of a mental tax that simply doesn't need to be there. I run Windows 10 at home and it's getting pretty stellar as far as UI and features like high DPI. It sounds like they are rapidly making inroads on battery life (if not already surpassing Apple - the reason I switched to OSX in 2012 to begin with) on the same hardware, and as soon as they get some competent software like a terminal emulator that doesn't suck (assuming the linux subsystem development push continues) Apple really loses it's moat for this market segment. As far as I can tell though in the past couple years - they just don't care. At this point the largest missing piece for me switching back to Windows is lack of a stellar terminal emulator. Everything I've tried so far on the desktop (@4k) still either annoys me for closed source reasons, or just does not look as good as iterm2 on the retina. It's a silly thing, but something I don't want to have to worry about. It's also an incredibly shallow moat.

arihant 10y ago
I did the same thing. I have a 2015 MBP, and I plan to hold it at least till AppleCare expires and then see how's the landscape is. Having the 2015 model, I don't feel at all left out with this release. I think I have a better laptop that this release. They are still selling it on their website. But I don't think it will be a just-buy-another-mac type of purchase when I'm out for my next machine.