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If we get serious, then it could be said that it's negligent for PCs claiming to be for Pro use not to use ECC memory. ECC and Xeons aren't fringe exotic techn
by frou_dh 10y ago
If we get serious, then it could be said that it's negligent for PCs claiming to be for Pro use not to use ECC memory.
ECC and Xeons aren't fringe exotic technology. Intel obviously has some kind of hang-up with their market segmentation though.
- chrisper 10y agoThe Thinkpads, which are pro, do support ECC and Xeons. Pretty sure, Dell has laptops like that, too.
- strictnein 10y agoHP does as well with their ZBook line.
- xorblurb 10y agoThe whole story about ECC ram in the computer industry is completely insane. RAM is basically the only place in most PC not protected by a form of ECC, except on expensive (or at least less produced) Xeon (or maybe some AMD, I don't know which ones). I don't know if caches on most ARM processors have ECC, but the situation might very well be the same on smartphone. Sad...
- secabeen 10y agoStrangely, there are a bunch of low-end pentiums that support ECC.
- jeeva 10y agoFor the lightweight home/small office server-type things, aren't they?
- xorblurb 10y agoProbably "industrial" low-end pentiums, for projects where reliability is needed but even a Xeon E3 would be overkill. The thing is that it is considered that ECC in RAM is not needed for consumer electronics, but that's utterly insane.
- alfalfasprout 10y agoIf I'm not mistaken, all Xeon E5 and E7 processors support registered ECC memory. Many (if not most) multi-socket Xeon motherboards won't even let you install non-ECC memory. Here's the thing... there's really not much of a point in ECC memory for most desktops and laptops. In servers, sure... in mission critical applications even a tiny memory error could have devastating consequences. But for someone browsing facebook? Nah.
- frou_dh 10y agoWhat's the point of perpetuating a miserly "they don't need/deserve $BETTER_TECH" attitude? The general march of progress in computing has been about better technology iteratively trickling down to everybody. I don't "need" my phone to have a 64bit CPU, but I'll take it. Glad it does. No doubt a few years ago someone was saying... "64bit should be a PC thing. Phones? Nah." ...like it was some kind of law, rather than just the point-in-time market situation.