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How come all that complaining and rambling about the missing upgrades for the iMac or Mac mini? I really think that Apple did a great job at evolutionally impro

by stemuk 10y ago

How come all that complaining and rambling about the missing upgrades for the iMac or Mac mini? I really think that Apple did a great job at evolutionally improving the MacBook Pro under the hood, and the TouchBar seems to be a really usefull addition for creative professionals. Quite a fraction of the HN community really seems to enjoy complaining about what possibly could have been, rather than just beeing happy about the stuff Apple delivered today. And if you just can't stand the new MacBooks? Who cares! There are tons of other manufacturers to choose from and a different machine may just fit your taste perfectly.

cooper12 10y ago
HN just loves to be anti-Apple so they can say they aren't sheeple. Every keynote thread here has had comments about how Apple stopped innovating after Steve Jobs. And yet every year they still somehow innovate. Comments like that show how deep HN has fallen into the cult of personality, that they actually believed it was Steve who was coming up with all of these ideas. So much for not being sheeple ;).
- ajeet_dhaliwal 10y ago
  I don't think this is fair. There are features many devs care about that going away. Everything soldered to the board meaning nothing can be upgraded, no increases in ram (which is fixed and makes this even worse), getting rid of ports that people use, now a touch bar that does not appeal to touch typists, and then to top it off a huge jacking up of prices .
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  - cooper12 10y ago
    The soldered-in stuff is not new to this model and is unlikely to be reversed. Your average user does not need more than 16GB of ram, and as said before, is not a new thing with Macbooks. (it's like expecting smartphone makers to suddenly include SD cards, sorry but the ship has long sailed) As for ports, they have USB C which can do everything the old ports did; that's where the industry is headed anyway, Apple is only jumpstarting it. Lastly, yeah the Touch Bar is not for touch typists, so what? No one is going to force you to use it. Price is price, that's just the Apple Premium (TM). It's naive of the commenters to think that Apple is suddenly going to appeal to them, sorry, but you're not the target demographic. Go buy some decades-old Thinkpads and install Linux on them since that's what you were going to do anyway.
    - ajeet_dhaliwal 10y ago
      They appealed to us before, that's the point. Things have changed over the last 5-6 years.

by stemuk 10y ago

cooper12 10y ago

HN just loves to be anti-Apple so they can say they aren't sheeple. Every keynote thread here has had comments about how Apple stopped innovating after Steve Jobs. And yet every year they still somehow innovate. Comments like that show how deep HN has fallen into the cult of personality, that they actually believed it was Steve who was coming up with all of these ideas. So much for not being sheeple ;).

ajeet_dhaliwal 10y ago
I don't think this is fair. There are features many devs care about that going away. Everything soldered to the board meaning nothing can be upgraded, no increases in ram (which is fixed and makes this even worse), getting rid of ports that people use, now a touch bar that does not appeal to touch typists, and then to top it off a huge jacking up of prices .
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- cooper12 10y ago
  The soldered-in stuff is not new to this model and is unlikely to be reversed. Your average user does not need more than 16GB of ram, and as said before, is not a new thing with Macbooks. (it's like expecting smartphone makers to suddenly include SD cards, sorry but the ship has long sailed) As for ports, they have USB C which can do everything the old ports did; that's where the industry is headed anyway, Apple is only jumpstarting it. Lastly, yeah the Touch Bar is not for touch typists, so what? No one is going to force you to use it. Price is price, that's just the Apple Premium (TM). It's naive of the commenters to think that Apple is suddenly going to appeal to them, sorry, but you're not the target demographic. Go buy some decades-old Thinkpads and install Linux on them since that's what you were going to do anyway.
  - ajeet_dhaliwal 10y ago
    They appealed to us before, that's the point. Things have changed over the last 5-6 years.