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> Microsoft introduced a 28" desktop PC in an era when nobody uses desktops anymore. The fraction of desktops vs. laptops shipped (~40%-~60%) has been holding

> Microsoft introduced a 28" desktop PC in an era when nobody uses desktops anymore. The fraction of desktops vs. laptops shipped (~40%-~60%) has been holding steady for years. https://www.statista.com/statistics/272595/global-shipments-forecast-for-tablets-laptops-and-desktop-pcs/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/272595/global-shipments-...

rayiner 10y ago
How many of those desktops are used in corporate environments that would never spring for a machine that starts at $2,999?
- pcwalton 10y ago
  I don't know? I'm interested in correcting your hyperbolic statement, not in "which computer will sell better to IT departments" predictions.
- devopsproject 10y ago
  This isn't a computer for excel\word\facebook. The target market for this is people who buy a $1,800 wacom cintiq and pair it with a $1,000 computer. The price is reasonable for the people it targets.
  - jljljl 10y ago
    Honest Question: How does the actual computing hardware on the entry level Surface Studio compare to a $1000 computer?
    - devopsproject 10y ago
      Not an exhaustive search: http://store.hp.com/us/en/pdp/business-solutions/hp-z240-tower-workstation-l8t12av-1--1 http://store.hp.com/us/en/pdp/business-solutions/hp-z240-tow... So for 1,100 you are getting half as much ram, half as much storage, and a lesser gpu. I'm sure you could spec out something similar to the internals for a few hundred less with a little bit of work.
    - NetStrikeForce 10y ago
      Comparing it to an Apple computer maybe?
  - Mtinie 10y ago
    Slight correction, though your point stands. You would need to buy the $2,800, 27" Cintiq[1] and a new computer to compete against the Surface Studio offering. This makes the Surface Studio a more compelling offering on the surface, at least to me. [1]https://us-store.wacom.com/Catalog/Pen-Displays/Cintiq/Cintiq-27QHD-S01 https://us-store.wacom.com/Catalog/Pen-Displays/Cintiq/Cinti...
    - wlesieutre 10y ago
      Penny Arcade's Mike Krahulik has been using one for a week and compared it to his Cintiq: > Tycho asked me to compare it to my Cintiq, and I told him that drawing on the Cintiq now felt like drawing on a piece of dirty plexiglass hovering over a CRT monitor from 1997. A bit hyperbolic, but you get the idea. https://www.penny-arcade.com/news/post/2016/10/26/the-surface-studio https://www.penny-arcade.com/news/post/2016/10/26/the-surfac...
- rodgerd 10y ago
  It's kind of amusing watching Apple fans replay "spec" and "niche" arguments they used to poo-poo. Kind of like watching them do a smooth about-face on the superiority of PowerPC processors back in the day.
- pimeys 10y ago
  I've been running a custom desktop PC at work for years. I tend to want the best possible hardware and getting a custom workstation is the cheapest way of getting it. Very happy with my machine and I've never had any need for a laptop in the office.

rayiner 10y ago

How many of those desktops are used in corporate environments that would never spring for a machine that starts at $2,999?

pcwalton 10y ago
I don't know? I'm interested in correcting your hyperbolic statement, not in "which computer will sell better to IT departments" predictions.
devopsproject 10y ago
This isn't a computer for excel\word\facebook. The target market for this is people who buy a $1,800 wacom cintiq and pair it with a $1,000 computer. The price is reasonable for the people it targets.
- jljljl 10y ago
  Honest Question: How does the actual computing hardware on the entry level Surface Studio compare to a $1000 computer?
  - devopsproject 10y ago
    Not an exhaustive search: http://store.hp.com/us/en/pdp/business-solutions/hp-z240-tower-workstation-l8t12av-1--1 http://store.hp.com/us/en/pdp/business-solutions/hp-z240-tow... So for 1,100 you are getting half as much ram, half as much storage, and a lesser gpu. I'm sure you could spec out something similar to the internals for a few hundred less with a little bit of work.
  - NetStrikeForce 10y ago
    Comparing it to an Apple computer maybe?
- Mtinie 10y ago
  Slight correction, though your point stands. You would need to buy the $2,800, 27" Cintiq[1] and a new computer to compete against the Surface Studio offering. This makes the Surface Studio a more compelling offering on the surface, at least to me. [1]https://us-store.wacom.com/Catalog/Pen-Displays/Cintiq/Cintiq-27QHD-S01 https://us-store.wacom.com/Catalog/Pen-Displays/Cintiq/Cinti...
  - wlesieutre 10y ago
    Penny Arcade's Mike Krahulik has been using one for a week and compared it to his Cintiq: > Tycho asked me to compare it to my Cintiq, and I told him that drawing on the Cintiq now felt like drawing on a piece of dirty plexiglass hovering over a CRT monitor from 1997. A bit hyperbolic, but you get the idea. https://www.penny-arcade.com/news/post/2016/10/26/the-surface-studio https://www.penny-arcade.com/news/post/2016/10/26/the-surfac...
rodgerd 10y ago
It's kind of amusing watching Apple fans replay "spec" and "niche" arguments they used to poo-poo. Kind of like watching them do a smooth about-face on the superiority of PowerPC processors back in the day.
pimeys 10y ago
I've been running a custom desktop PC at work for years. I tend to want the best possible hardware and getting a custom workstation is the cheapest way of getting it. Very happy with my machine and I've never had any need for a laptop in the office.