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Everyone seems disappointed but I think the reason is this: There isn't that much to innovate on the laptop. If you want real innovation, you need new form fa

Everyone seems disappointed but I think the reason is this: There isn't that much to innovate on the laptop. If you want real innovation, you need new form factors: voice recognition, VR, intelligent devices and so on. The laptop is excellent at what it does and the only thing you can really do is make it faster and lighter.

lostgame 10y ago
Everyone's disappointed because we don't WANT innovation. We WANT better battery life, not a slightly thinner laptop. We WANT our USB ports and MagSafe. We WANT a touchscreen MacBook. We WANT significantly upgraded specs, and expandability. We WANT to have the same physical keyboard layout we've had forever. We WANT Apple to stop f•••ing us around by increasing the price while actively removing features. THIS laptop is not 'excellent at what it does' if I can't: • use any of my existing peripherals with it without paying an exorbitant $35 PER ADAPTER to get it to do so. • provide me with a significant performance increase to a laptop I bought 4 years ago. • provide me with the same features the previous laptop had (built-in HDMI, built-in SD card slot) This is head-shakingly, miserably sad and would've been a punch in the balls already for any serious pro user if it wasn't an additional punch in the balls for Apple considering Microsoft showed yesterday it's actually willing to innovate.
- TheRealDunkirk 10y ago
  For me, "please, no," to the touchscreen. I think Apple is quite rightly keeping the dividing line between macOS and iOS with a touch screen.
  - maxxxxx 10y ago
    Have you worked with a touch screen laptop? It's actually quite nice once you get used to it.
  - cygned 10y ago
    I never understand people who want to have a touch screen in such a form factor. I mean, I would have to move my hand from my keyboard to the screen. That sounds very inefficient to me (but I am a heavy keyboard user, though).
    - yoodenvranx 10y ago
      A friend of mine has a yoga 900 and for some stuff a touchscreen is quite cool, especially if you are lazily on the couch and you do Youtube or movie watching or you listen to spotify. For such stuff it's really nice to just press on the play or next button on the screen. It's nothing you _have_ to have, but for lazy computer usage it's a nice feature.
- masklinn 10y ago
  > We WANT our USB ports and MagSafe. Talk for yourself, all-type-C is one of the things I was seriously looking for.
  - colemickens 10y ago
    Yup. I already own 4 chargers that can charge the new MBP and being able to plug the cord into either side is a GOD SEND on my Chromebook Pixel. Sound silly, but it isn't.
- Jtsummers 10y ago
  > We WANT our USB ports and MagSafe. I, for one, don't. At least wrt older USB ports. Yeah, I'm going to be annoyed over the next couple years having to have a USB-C to A adaptor around until everything gets converted over (USB->lightning, external hard drive) or an HDMI adaptor. But, fuck, I was sick of standard PC laptops still having a serial port years ago. And PS/2 connectors. At some point, we have to move on. If USB-C is the future (and the industry seems tobe indicating it is), I'd rather us rip off the bandaid and be done with the move so I don't have a laptop 5 years from now (current one is 4, will probably be replaced now or this time next year) with outdated and useless ports from 15 years ago.
- TheAceOfHearts 10y ago
  I don't think everyone agrees with you. But these are all opinions, I'm certain that not everyone agrees with you. Although I'm unhappy at the loss of MagSafe, I really like all adapters being USB C. I think it'll ultimately be worth it, and I don't personally consider having to buy a few adapters to be a big deal. I don't want a touchscreen. In fact, I'd say that I'm actively against a touchscreen. Adding a touchscreen would probably mean updating the UI to match iOS more closely. I want my UIs to be tailored for high precision mouse / trackpad and keyboard.
trurl 10y ago
We aren't concerned about innovation, we're exasperated that we still can't get any more RAM on them than we could 4 years ago.
yoodenvranx 10y ago
> There isn't that much to innovate on the laptop. Just imagine they would make the thing 5 mm thicker and fill all the space with battery. Instant 2-3 day non-stop runtime. That's what I'd like to see.
- stillhaveadream 10y ago
  I like that too,lol
overgard 10y ago
I don't want innovation on my laptop, I want evolution. Make the battery last longer and the processor faster. These "innovations" are solving problems that don't exist, and they just made the product worse for me. All my computers since 2009 have been macs, but my next laptop isn't going to be one.

lostgame 10y ago

Everyone's disappointed because we don't WANT innovation. We WANT better battery life, not a slightly thinner laptop. We WANT our USB ports and MagSafe. We WANT a touchscreen MacBook. We WANT significantly upgraded specs, and expandability. We WANT to have the same physical keyboard layout we've had forever. We WANT Apple to stop f•••ing us around by increasing the price while actively removing features. THIS laptop is not 'excellent at what it does' if I can't: • use any of my existing peripherals with it without paying an exorbitant $35 PER ADAPTER to get it to do so. • provide me with a significant performance increase to a laptop I bought 4 years ago. • provide me with the same features the previous laptop had (built-in HDMI, built-in SD card slot) This is head-shakingly, miserably sad and would've been a punch in the balls already for any serious pro user if it wasn't an additional punch in the balls for Apple considering Microsoft showed yesterday it's actually willing to innovate.

TheRealDunkirk 10y ago
For me, "please, no," to the touchscreen. I think Apple is quite rightly keeping the dividing line between macOS and iOS with a touch screen.
- maxxxxx 10y ago
  Have you worked with a touch screen laptop? It's actually quite nice once you get used to it.
- cygned 10y ago
  I never understand people who want to have a touch screen in such a form factor. I mean, I would have to move my hand from my keyboard to the screen. That sounds very inefficient to me (but I am a heavy keyboard user, though).
  - yoodenvranx 10y ago
    A friend of mine has a yoga 900 and for some stuff a touchscreen is quite cool, especially if you are lazily on the couch and you do Youtube or movie watching or you listen to spotify. For such stuff it's really nice to just press on the play or next button on the screen. It's nothing you _have_ to have, but for lazy computer usage it's a nice feature.
masklinn 10y ago
> We WANT our USB ports and MagSafe. Talk for yourself, all-type-C is one of the things I was seriously looking for.
- colemickens 10y ago
  Yup. I already own 4 chargers that can charge the new MBP and being able to plug the cord into either side is a GOD SEND on my Chromebook Pixel. Sound silly, but it isn't.
Jtsummers 10y ago
> We WANT our USB ports and MagSafe. I, for one, don't. At least wrt older USB ports. Yeah, I'm going to be annoyed over the next couple years having to have a USB-C to A adaptor around until everything gets converted over (USB->lightning, external hard drive) or an HDMI adaptor. But, fuck, I was sick of standard PC laptops still having a serial port years ago. And PS/2 connectors. At some point, we have to move on. If USB-C is the future (and the industry seems tobe indicating it is), I'd rather us rip off the bandaid and be done with the move so I don't have a laptop 5 years from now (current one is 4, will probably be replaced now or this time next year) with outdated and useless ports from 15 years ago.
TheAceOfHearts 10y ago
I don't think everyone agrees with you. But these are all opinions, I'm certain that not everyone agrees with you. Although I'm unhappy at the loss of MagSafe, I really like all adapters being USB C. I think it'll ultimately be worth it, and I don't personally consider having to buy a few adapters to be a big deal. I don't want a touchscreen. In fact, I'd say that I'm actively against a touchscreen. Adding a touchscreen would probably mean updating the UI to match iOS more closely. I want my UIs to be tailored for high precision mouse / trackpad and keyboard.

trurl 10y ago

We aren't concerned about innovation, we're exasperated that we still can't get any more RAM on them than we could 4 years ago.

yoodenvranx 10y ago

> There isn't that much to innovate on the laptop. Just imagine they would make the thing 5 mm thicker and fill all the space with battery. Instant 2-3 day non-stop runtime. That's what I'd like to see.

stillhaveadream 10y ago
I like that too,lol

overgard 10y ago

I don't want innovation on my laptop, I want evolution. Make the battery last longer and the processor faster. These "innovations" are solving problems that don't exist, and they just made the product worse for me. All my computers since 2009 have been macs, but my next laptop isn't going to be one.