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HN is full of people who touch-type F9, I know. But I'm pretty excited about the toolbar. In anything but my primary editor, it will dramatically increase my ab

HN is full of people who touch-type F9, I know. But I'm pretty excited about the toolbar. In anything but my primary editor, it will dramatically increase my ability to get by keyboard-only. For 99% of people, the increased discoverability will dramatically increase their ability to use shortcuts. And even the other 1% don't spend all their time within a set of applications small enough to memorize all shortcuts.

falcolas 10y ago
Sure, so long as you're OK looking down at your keyboard to find the right function on the touchbar every time you want to use it. Better, IMO, to use a mapped key chord.
cdubzzz 10y ago
> HN is full of people who touch-type F9, I know. This is interesting. I don't really have an opinion about the feature either way, but the touch-type issue didn't even cross my mind while reading about it. I never learned to do it and can't think of anyone I know who does. Although I'm sure more than enough people here have very different experiences. I wonder what percentages of computer users actually do touch-type regularly...
- matt4077 10y ago
  I can't think of any argument except the missing tactile feedback, considering it is strictly equal or better in any other regard (as you can apparently customize it to revert back to just static keys). And I'm pretty sure 90%+ of people here touch type when within the 0-9a-Z range. I just doubt that many people press, without looking, F5 to `continue` in the chrome developer tools. Because (a) you don't remember shortcuts for any app you use less than an hour a day and (b) f5 is a bt too far out of reach (at least for me) to get their using the usual landmarks.
igravious 10y ago
Poll: Do you touch type? (by mcobrien 1723 days ago) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3566079 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3566079 ▲ The Right Way 318 points ▲ Sloppily, without using home keys 210 points ▲ No 45 points
- cdubzzz 10y ago
  So that explains the reaction here on HN, at least. I had no idea polls are a thing!

falcolas 10y ago

Sure, so long as you're OK looking down at your keyboard to find the right function on the touchbar every time you want to use it. Better, IMO, to use a mapped key chord.

cdubzzz 10y ago

> HN is full of people who touch-type F9, I know. This is interesting. I don't really have an opinion about the feature either way, but the touch-type issue didn't even cross my mind while reading about it. I never learned to do it and can't think of anyone I know who does. Although I'm sure more than enough people here have very different experiences. I wonder what percentages of computer users actually do touch-type regularly...

matt4077 10y ago
I can't think of any argument except the missing tactile feedback, considering it is strictly equal or better in any other regard (as you can apparently customize it to revert back to just static keys). And I'm pretty sure 90%+ of people here touch type when within the 0-9a-Z range. I just doubt that many people press, without looking, F5 to `continue` in the chrome developer tools. Because (a) you don't remember shortcuts for any app you use less than an hour a day and (b) f5 is a bt too far out of reach (at least for me) to get their using the usual landmarks.

igravious 10y ago

Poll: Do you touch type? (by mcobrien 1723 days ago) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3566079 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3566079 ▲ The Right Way 318 points ▲ Sloppily, without using home keys 210 points ▲ No 45 points

cdubzzz 10y ago
So that explains the reaction here on HN, at least. I had no idea polls are a thing!